How to duplicate track without linking?

[Ronman]

When I duplicate a MIDI instrument track, checking the "Events" box but NOT checking the "Link to original" box, it acts as if linked.  That is, if I select MIDI events in the new track, it automatically selects the similar events in the original track.   If I delete something in the new track, it's also deleted in the original.

However, if I select both tracks and right-click, "Unlink" is greyed out, indicating the Cakewalk doesn't consider them linked but is behaving as if they are.

If I delete a MIDI event in the new track using a left click in PRV, it works as desired, i.e. only deletes in that track.  But that's a tedious way to go.

 

Edited January 4, 2022 by Ronman

[Andres Medina]

It's working fine here. See video. Are you using the latest version of CW?

[Ronman]

Yes, using latest version.  Go into PRV on track 2 before dragging the clip to the new position, and drag-select something, then press the delete key.  Does it also delete within track 1?

[Andres Medina]

11 hours ago, Ronman said:

Yes, using latest version.  Go into PRV on track 2 before dragging the clip to the new position, and drag-select something, then press the delete key.  Does it also delete within track 1?

No, it doesn't, at least in my system. As far as I tested, nothing I edit on track 2 affects track 1, if they are not linked.

See videos.

[Xoo]

Isn't there a (newish?) setting that makes the options in paste special stick, which might be set to always link clips?

[Andres Medina]

mhhh...not that am aware of -

[John Vere]

FYI. If I want to duplicate a midi track I either insert a new instrument track or a new midi track. I highlight the original and hold down CTRL to drag the data to the new track. This copies the midi without fuss. 

[Xoo]

Could it be this setting?

[Andres Medina]

11 minutes ago, Kevin Perry said:

Could it be this setting?

Yes, I think so! I was not aware of that one. Thanks - 

I think this works only for drag and drop operations though. 

[Xoo]

I hadn't actually checked when I posted that but it does indeed (on my machine anyway) only affect DnD, not Duplicate track (which I've checked with both plain MIDI and Simple Instrument Tracks).  So I can't replicate the OP's problem either.

[John Vere]

I guess the default is the box is unchecked as here in my screenshot.  I have never used these settings on this computer. 

[Ronman]

Argh, I left out a crucial detail in my original post.  The behavior of selecting all tracks in addition to the one I'm working on only happens when selecting from Now to End using Shift-Alt-F6.  Please see the video below.  The behavior is identical whether Preferences -> Editing -> "Copy Entire Clips As Linked Clips" is set or not.

The Shift-Alt-F6 command is one I use constantly and a major reason I use Cakewalk.

 

[John Vere]

Once again always more than one way to do things in Cakewalk.
I click on the track header / track number. This seems to always select everything in the track. Discovered it by accident one day. 

Edited January 8, 2022 by John Vere

[Ronman]

@John Vere  But I don't want to click everything in the track.  I want to click everything from a selected event onward, in a track that's a duplicate of another, but unlinked.  That's the tremendous value of Shift-Alt-F6, or was.

 

 

[John Vere]

I see. This is like in Wave lab a feature I use a lot. You use either Shift/ Home to highlight to the left. Or Shift /End to highlight to the right.  I dislike the slow way Cakewalk does this after a Split. You have to change it in preferences each move.