Byron Dickens Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Seems like a really counterproductive business model: suing your customers for not upgrading. Maybe more and more photographers will start putting time and energy into GIMP. Already, a fair amount of people on the video side are jumping ship to DaVinci Resolve. $300. Blackmagic Design has yet to charge for an upgrade. And there is a free version that does probably 85% of what the full one does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Byron Dickens said: Seems like a really counterproductive business model: suing your customers for not upgrading. Maybe more and more photographers will start putting time and energy into GIMP. Already, a fair amount of people on the video side are jumping ship to DaVinci Resolve. $300. Blackmagic Design has yet to charge for an upgrade. And there is a free version that does probably 85% of what the full one does. GIMP isn't good enough. However, Affinity Photo at $50 and you own it certianly is for pixel based photo editing like Photoshop. One also needs a good RAW converter i.e. Like Lightroom (Affinity Photo's isn't top tier). Capture One is better than LIghtroom, but also isn't a cheap alternative. DaVinci Resolve is the real deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitflipper Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 abacab, it could be worse. You could have a 20-year old copy Adobe Premier. My brother has worked at Adobe for decades. He came to the company back when they bought Aldus. He's a tech geek and not in marketing so he won't be embarrassed that I've outed him. As an employee he can buy software at cost, so I had him get me Audition and Premier. Premier just sucked something awful and I uninstalled it. Audition, though, seemed like a good investment. I had liked its shareware predecessor, and the idea of having it maintained and enhanced by a big corporation seemed like a good thing. Then they decided to go to the cloud with it. I was disappointed, but Audition 3 was still a good program and it still worked. At least, until I had to replace my computer after it was stolen. Audition didn't work anymore because it had to be authorized online and Adobe had taken down their authorization server. Instant obsolescence. Wouldn't Toyota or General Motors love to be able to remotely disable every car over 5 years old? Brilliant move. Luckily for me, Adobe still had a shred of conscience back then. They issued a universal license for Audition 3 users. I still use it to this day. I'm guessing some up-and-coming marketing dweeb stood in front of the conference table and pointed to a chart showing many AA3 users had not migrated to the new product, making the case that the company needed a heavier hand to keep its customers in line. And here we are. Will there ever be a consumer backlash? Not likely. After all, there are still Apple customers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, bitflipper said: After all, there are still Apple customers. LOL! Reminds me of a quote that I heard ... “There's a sucker born every minute.” -- P. T. Barnum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Jones Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 2 hours ago, bitflipper said: After all, there are still Apple customers. Careful, Bit. You're awfully close to the third rail of internet discussions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdiemer Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, bitflipper said: "Wouldn't Toyota or General Motors love to be able to remotely disable every car over 5 years old? Brilliant move." Yikes, don't give them any ideas! Edited May 16, 2019 by mdiemer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 5 hours ago, bitflipper said: Will there ever be a consumer backlash? Not likely. After all, there are still Apple customers. ? Cue the how to rob sheep joke......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Borthwick Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 "Please be aware that should you continue to use the discontinued version(s), you may be at risk of potential claims of infringement by third parties.”" This sounds to me that there is some legal issue with older versions and they are essentially washing their hands off the liability. I doubt anything would happen to actual consumers using old versions they bought but you never know with patent trolls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBH Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Noel Borthwick said: "Please be aware that should you continue to use the discontinued version(s), you may be at risk of potential claims of infringement by third parties.”" This sounds to me that there is some legal issue with older versions and they are essentially washing their hands off the liability. I doubt anything would happen to actual consumers using old versions they bought but you never know with patent trolls. In other words adobe is saying - ( careful - there's those bad guys out there ) but sign on and you're protected ( from us ! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitman Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 UEFI was created to release us from the shackles of only being able to boot from bios devices, and now from anywhere directed to. All it will take for your precious win10 box to be told only to boot from the m.s. mothership is one of your beloved security updates. I have formed the sentence this way because of the apathetic cool-aid drinking that is the worlds acceptance of automatic corruptdates under the guise of security and necessity. I personally have no pcs in this house using anything but MBR boot and updates off (for good) windows 10 or otherwise. They will never get me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Jones Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 5 hours ago, bitman said: They will never get me. I'd keep the tin foil handy though, just in case. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcL Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 On 5/16/2019 at 10:25 AM, msmcleod said: For one thing, it lowers the cost of ownership in the sense that you don't actually own the software. I have never seen that any kind of subscription has been more cost effective for the customer in the end. Usually the provider has more profit for the same effort. And in addition to that all rental models reduce the rating possibilities of the customers (not to buy a new version if it is not worth the money), i.e. reduced free-market economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Anderton Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 51 minutes ago, marled said: I have never seen that any kind of subscription has been more cost effective for the customer in the end. Usually the provider has more profit for the same effort. And in addition to that all rental models reduce the rating possibilities of the customers (not to buy a new version if it is not worth the money), i.e. reduced free-market economy. Great for corporations - cost-effective, everyone's using the same version, easy file exchanges, etc. Not so great for consumers, who have different needs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcL Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 11 hours ago, Craig Anderton said: Great for corporations - cost-effective, everyone's using the same version, easy file exchanges, etc. Not so great for consumers, who have different needs. Exactly, and there are not so many audio studio corporations, but a lot of amateur musicians like me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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