Christian Jones Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 If you got that email seemingly from the B&H CEO, what's your thoughts on it? Looks like some think they were hacked. Supposedly we're supposed to "tune in" for the launch tomorrow. If you didn't get it, google "Payboo." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I'm sorry, but I'm going with the "hacked" theory. ? I have done business over many years with B&H, and this just doesn't sound like them, or something that they would attempt to do. They are a legit, up and up, outstanding company! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I got an email just several hours ago from them about gifts for Mother's Day so I'm going with the hacked theory too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjornpdx Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I didn't get this email so I checked my account with BH and didn't see any mention of Payboo. Nothing on their website either. It's probably a hack since the message just doesn't sound like something from BH and anyway what the heck kind of name is Payboo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Jones Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 Well, the email did say it was inside info that, as a loyal customer, I was privy to pre-announcement lol. Some people talking about it. https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/62639953 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Jones Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 So, it's a card.. https://www.google.com/amp/s/appleinsider.com/articles/19/05/06/bh-payboo-card-to-refund-sales-tax-on-all-orders/amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael A.D. Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 12 hours ago, abacab said: I'm sorry, but I'm going with the "hacked" theory. ? I have done business over many years with B&H, and this just doesn't sound like them, or something that they would attempt to do. They are a legit, up and up, outstanding company! You might want to google this phrase: "B&H lawsuits" Among other lawsuits, they were sued by the US Dept. of Labor and had to pay 3.2 million for allegations of discrimination, bias, and harassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Michael A.D. said: You might want to google this phrase: "B&H lawsuits" Among other lawsuits, they were sued by the US Dept. of Labor and had to pay 3.2 million for allegations of discrimination, bias, and harassment. Right. Maybe you should actually read that lawsuit info for yourself, Mr Google Expert. "Update on 8/17/17: Here’s a statement provided to PetaPixel by B&H, which emphasizes that this was a “consent decree” settlement that did not result from any finding or admission of guilt" While we are pleased to conclude the case, B&H rejects the OFCCP’s allegations — we settled this matter to let us focus on our day-to-day work of providing excellent service to our customers, to avoid costly and time- consuming litigation, and to grow our Federal government business (the OFCCP oversees employers that do business with the government). https://petapixel.com/2017/08/16/bh-pay-3-22m-settle-lawsuit-filed-dept-labor/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 14 hours ago, Chris Jones said: So, it's a card.. https://www.google.com/amp/s/appleinsider.com/articles/19/05/06/bh-payboo-card-to-refund-sales-tax-on-all-orders/amp/ That's a novel approach to a credit card rewards program! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 hour ago, abacab said: That's a novel approach to a credit card rewards program! I guess that is a way to combat sales tax if you can afford to absorb the rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartabartfast Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 2 hours ago, abacab said: Right. Maybe you should actually read that lawsuit info for yourself, Mr Google Expert. "Update on 8/17/17: Here’s a statement provided to PetaPixel by B&H, which emphasizes that this was a “consent decree” settlement that did not result from any finding or admission of guilt" https://petapixel.com/2017/08/16/bh-pay-3-22m-settle-lawsuit-filed-dept-labor/ You do realize that a settlement without findings or admission of guilt is the standard way for any business that has broken the law to get out of jeopardy when dealing with US federal or state agencies. It is the rare exception when a company actually admits guilt or responsibility as part of a settlement, since that admission can be introduced in civil cases against the company by aggrieved individuals, or even support criminal charges against the responsible company officers. In general companies faced with admission of wrongdoing will choose to go to trial instead. Trials are expensive for the government, and give no certainty of result. Banks and other companies that have agreed to pay hundreds of millions of dollars in penalties to avoid fraud trials have generally been given settlements without admission of guilt, even in cases where many well informed experts agree that actual responsibility is certain. A consent decree is basically a promise to stop doing the crime or not do it again, and may involve a requirement for further court or agency supervision, so it does not always even cost the defendant any penalty. I do not know the facts in this particular case--which is pretty much the purpose of this type of settlement. In this case, at least from the report cited, at least some of the monetary settlement of 3.2 million dollars will go to some of the aggrieved employees. That is not always the case. Often enough the money goes to the government and the injured individuals are on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael A.D. Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I must have touched a nerve with abacab. I was just trying to point out that they are not an 'up and up outstanding company' in all regards. Yes, their business acumen is remarkable, but there is a long history of human resource type problems within B&H. And as slartabartfast indicates, settling a lawsuit without admitting guilt is a standard legal tactic to maintain a facade of innocence. And that particular lawsuit against B&H was just one of many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 The biggest problem with B&H, is that it kills you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 59 minutes ago, Michael A.D. said: I must have touched a nerve with abacab. I was just trying to point out that they are not an 'up and up outstanding company' in all regards. Yes, their business acumen is remarkable, but there is a long history of human resource type problems within B&H. And as slartabartfast indicates, settling a lawsuit without admitting guilt is a standard legal tactic to maintain a facade of innocence. And that particular lawsuit against B&H was just one of many. Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 hour ago, abacab said: Ok. So abacab did he touch a nerve and did it tickle? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Unsubstantiated opinions without facts and references always tickle me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 "Don't believe everything you read on the Internet!" ~ Moses 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesh Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 19 hours ago, msmcleod said: The biggest problem with B&H, is that it kills you... My dad used to smoke those (2 packs a day)....he did get lung cancer before passing away. RIP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Mesh said: My dad used to smoke those (2 packs a day)....he did get lung cancer before passing away. RIP Sorry to hear that Mesh. Thankfully I managed to kick the habit years ago. Was never a fan of B&H though, Marlboro was my poison. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 1 hour ago, craigb said: "Don't believe everything you read on the Internet!" ~ Moses What about Twitter? You know wink wink nudge nudge it has to be true ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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