Digsy Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Hi, I've had Cakewalk installed for about a week and I just noticed I have the "missing TTS-1" problem. The symptoms are exactly the same as described in this thread, except for the final fix. For me, the TTS-1 DX instruments have vanished completely. They are not listed in excluded nor permanently excluded plugins. I did have a couple of powercuts while using Cakewalk recently, so I am wondering if the files have become corrupted. Any ideas of what I could try beyond a full re-install? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 If TTS-1.dll is still in "C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Shared DXi\TTS-1" you could try re-registering the plug-in by opening up a command window as administrator and typing regsvr32 C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Shared DXi\TTS-1\TTS-1.dll If the file is not there or fails to register, a simple uninstall/reinstall using BA (or uninstall from Windows and use the Cakewalk Web Installer) should bring it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted October 10, 2021 Author Share Posted October 10, 2021 Hi, After reading some of the other threads on this topic I had already tried this., but I jus did i again. The file is there, and it does register, but it doesn't bring the TTS-1 instruments back. As per the other thread I referenced, if I open an old project which uses the TTS-1 synth it does still work, so TTS-1 is still there, and I can also create a new TTS-1 track by using "Insert from track template" but the TTS-1 synth itself is missing from my list of instruments both in the plugins module and in Plugin Manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Which plug-in layout are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted October 10, 2021 Author Share Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) The default one that you get with a clean install, with instruments sorted by Manufacturer. Edited October 10, 2021 by Digsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Did you create that layout yourself? Try switching layouts by clicking the triangle on the right side of the plug-in tab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted October 10, 2021 Author Share Posted October 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, scook said: Did you create that layout yourself? Try switching layouts by clicking the triangle on the right side of the plug-in tab. No, I'm pretty sure all I did was select "Sort by Manufacturer". But its isn't there for any of the other options either. It just doesn't appear at all, no matter what I do. In fact I have nothing in DX Instruments in Plug In Manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 To switch plug-in layouts click the triangle on the right side of the plug-ins tab It may be a corrupted layout. The "Sort by" layouts are cached as tmp files in the plug-in layouts folder. The default location for the plug-in layouts folder is "%appdata%\Cakewalk\Cakewalk Core\Plug-in Menu Layouts" The path is stored in Preferences > File > Folder Locations. Shut down CbB Delete the tmp files from the plug-in layouts folder. This will force CbB to rebuild the layouts on startup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, Digsy said: It just doesn't appear at all, no matter what I do. In fact I have nothing in DX Instruments in Plug In Manager. I just noticed this. How comfortable are you with regedit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Since the plug-in still works in existing projects, it feels like a registry problem. Try unregistering the plug-in then re-register it. To unregister the plug-in at the command line as administrator type regsvr32 /u C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Shared DXi\TTS-1\TTS-1.dll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted October 10, 2021 Author Share Posted October 10, 2021 Almost there! Unregistering and re-registering worked, at least insofar as I can now see TTS-1 in Plug In Manager (I also did the same for Groove Player as that was not appearing either). However, neither are appearing in the Plugins Module. I tried resetting the personalisation by starting Cakewalk with CTRL pressed but no difference. I guess I could make a new plugins layout with everything re-added but I was just hoping it would go back to default once the DLLs were re-registered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 GroovePlayer is the metronome and does not appear in the plug-in lists. WRT, TTS-1 not showing up in the plug-in lists, did you clear out the old tmp files from the plug-in layout folder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 I hadn't but I just did. Unfortunately, the TTS-1 instrument is still not showing up anywhere in the Plug Ins Module, even though I can clearly see it in the Plug In Manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 So it's day 2 of a project that indicated re-install. How much time should be invested in this alternate strategy? A simple uninstall/reinstall takes is a few seconds + download time. If reinstalled using the Cakewalk Web Installer, the full CbB installer will be available for future use like maybe a clean uninstall/reinstall if the simple uninstall/reinstall does not solve the problem. If a clean install is required. See this post to avoid losing 3rd party VST plug-ins in the default Cakewalk folder If uninstalling is a problem, run the 2021.06 rollback (found in the 2021.09 announcement) and the 2021.04 rollback (found in the 2021.06 announcement) then update to 2021.09. This too will download and run the full 2021.09 installer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 (edited) "Simple" uninstall / re-install didn't work. Rather it uninstalled and reinstalled fine, but didn't behave any differently. Looks like it'll have to be a completely clean re-install. Thanks for your help in getting this far, anyway. Edited October 11, 2021 by Digsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/10/2021 at 12:28 PM, Digsy said: Any ideas of what I could try beyond a full re-install? Move on and use different instruments. TTS1 is an obsolete, no-longer-maintained 32 bit DXI. It is known problematic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, bdickens said: TTS1 is an obsolete, no-longer-maintained 32 bit DXI. DX plug-ins must be the same bitness as the host. There has been a 64bit version of TTS-1 since the first release of 64bit SONAR over 15 years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 If I am reading the OP correctly the larger issue is power conditioning On 10/10/2021 at 12:28 PM, Digsy said: I did have a couple of powercuts while using Cakewalk recently If this means the PC lost power, a UPS is in order. A good UPS is much cheaper than the time spent maintaining a PC suffering from unreliable power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, scook said: DX plug-ins must be the same bitness as the host. There has been a 64bit version of TTS-1 since the first release of 64bit SONAR over 15 years ago. Ok. TTS1 is an obsolete, no-longer-maintained DXI. Move on and use different instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 It is true the plug-in is difficult to maintain but I suspect there are quite a few users who find it handy for playing MIDI files. Regardless, the problem described in the OP could be a symptoms of a larger issue with the software after On 10/10/2021 at 12:28 PM, Digsy said: I did have a couple of powercuts while using Cakewalk recently Opining on the utility of TTS-1 may miss the point of the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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