treesha Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 I am looking at the vectorscope in Ozone and see the mix has more times than I have seen before of going to the -1 / out of phase reading. I look at some of the tracks alone and find the lead guitar track is going all the way to -1 often. I recorded track this using Ample strat guitar virtual instrument with a preset that is "clean" and within ample put some reverb on using one of their reverb presets. Then in the track and pro channel I have other things, so I turned off the pro channel and track fx bin and the guitar track is still often going down to -1 especially on the lowest notes in the lead. So this is with all fx off, just what is recorded as the output of ample. If I make the track mono in cake, it is not out of phase of course, and if I turn it to mono in Ozone it is ok too but sounds extremely flat. I haven't seen this before so am asking is this ok to leave this way? Or do I try re-recording the ample with no reverb and then add reverb to the track later or would it still be going -1 because of some reason in the left and right output from ample? When I put the track in mono, it is very flat and center, should I have the track mono and then add some fx ? When it goes all the way to -1 it is still very audible, nothing I can tell gets lost as if it is cancelling itself out. Suggestions and comments appreciated ! Thanks, treesha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 But how does it sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treesha Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 A lot better than with the fx off ha. I don't notice any problem with the sound of the lead guitar but maybe I don't know what to listen for? I don't hear any cancellation that I can tell. I have seen cancellation between two panned similar tracks and know some moves to fix that, but this is just on one track so I am puzzled. I always check my mixes in mono and that's when I noticed what the meter was doing when playing the song in stereo. I just experimented with other presets in Ample that have loads of internal ample fx, recorded those and looked at the vectorscope and they don't go to -1 even on low notes. I believe there is an eq within Ample on the "clean" preset of the track going -1 so even when I thought I had only ample reverb engaged it might have also came with the eq on. Still checking around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Most guitars sound better with fewer effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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