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No one else has mentioned them yet, so...

Captain plugins from Mixed In Key. Captain Chords. Captain Beat. Captain Melody. Captain Deep (for basslines). Captain Play.

https://mixedinkey.com/captain-plugins/

Not on sale at the moment, but it does happen. Solid plugins.

There are lots of YouTube videos on the v5 version. Here's Mixed In Key's video for Captain Deep.

 

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51 minutes ago, abacab said:

Scaler 2 is another option for creating chord progressions and bass lines. https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/plugin-boutique-scaler-2

Now with key and scale detection for MIDI and audio.

 

I hadn't thought about Scaler 2 for bass lines. It's a terrific plugin. I installed it, along with the Captain plugins, on my new laptop. Auto Theory, InstaChord, InstaScale and others of that type that I tried out, did not make the cut. Didn't get used on my old desktop, so why bother? Scaler 2 is less expensive, but I like all of the different Rhythms available in Captain Deep. That said, I need to go back I look at Scaler from a bass line perspective. ?

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1 hour ago, John Maar said:

I hadn't thought about Scaler 2 for bass lines. It's a terrific plugin. I installed it, along with the Captain plugins, on my new laptop. Auto Theory, InstaChord, InstaScale and others of that type that I tried out, did not make the cut. Didn't get used on my old desktop, so why bother? Scaler 2 is less expensive, but I like all of the different Rhythms available in Captain Deep. That said, I need to go back I look at Scaler from a bass line perspective. ?

Scaler 2.2 has added a new Bass Mode, with over 100 basslines categorized and capable of responding to your chords.

 

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38 minutes ago, abacab said:

Scaler 2.2 has added a new Bass Mode, with over 100 basslines categorized and capable of responding to your chords.

 

That's what happens when you don't pay attention to the release notes. And I'm on v2.3. Doh. Watching and learning now.

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To me using patterns is a lot more work than others methods you could use to create music. I’ve never understood the point of them other than for drums. 

I guess I’ve always figured out how to make my own parts a lot faster than digging though 1,000’s of patterns 

I was not a keyboard player when midi came into my life. I had absolutely no clue where the notes were. But I quickly figured out how to play simple bass parts on a keyboard and how to edit them into an ok backing track. After all you could slow down the tempo and even then we had quantize. 


I bought the Roland GR50 hoping to play bass lines on my guitar. It worked but because data storage was limited I couldn’t use the resulting midi data because it was huge. So back to the keyboard  


It took 30 year for my dream to come true and I can now play my real bass and just drag it to a midi track.
But up until then I just got better and better at keyboards because I had to if I wanted good tracks. I now enjoy keyboard and look forward to spending more time practicing now I’m retired. 
 

then there’s drums!  

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  • 2 weeks later...

Interesting idea, Mr. Fogle.  I'll give that a look also.

Thanks for your thoughts, John.  I guess my needs are just simpler that what you wanted to accomplish (and you have certainly accomplished a great deal).  Or maybe I'm just "simple".  ?

Ken in Kansas

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On 3/12/2021 at 2:46 PM, abacab said:

Scaler 2.2 has added a new Bass Mode, with over 100 basslines categorized and capable of responding to your chords.

Came across this thread while looking for some less "frenetic" Bass midi patterns, and now I'm waaaay down the Scaler rabbit-hole. There goes my weekend.

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  • 3 years later...

Hi I have been harassing companies for the same thing for a number of years. Here is my request which has fallen on deaf ears:

I am a solo performer. I play guitar and for vocals I use 2 TC Helicon harmoniser G-XT units. I also use 2 microphones and physically move from one to the other for either clean sound or harmonies. It works well and doesn't need any dancing between pedals. My attempts at football have proven me to be chiropidically dyslexic. Is anybody aware of a TC Helicon (or any other company) virtual bass device which provides a range of bass lines (as do many keyboards) controlled by the guitar cords (as in the TC Helicon harmonizer) and controlled e.g. by the midi output of a drum machine. I have identified one which would appear to do the job but is a software based midi system which requires a computer. It also requires an over sensitive Roland Midi pickup and analogue to midi converter unit. I would like one, similar to the harmonizer, in a single box. The technologies already exist in the harmonizer and various keyboards but just need a techno-wizard to re-arrange them into a single "virtual bass" box.

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Hi, Thanks for the info but I am looking for a very simple solution. For examples the main bass lines I would find useful would consist of a) The root note of each chord played timed with the drum machine. b) The root note followed by its 5th of each chord and again timed with drum machine. c) A walking bass line based on the chord being played and timed again with the drum machine. Electronic keyboards offer a multitude of alternate bass line variations. I have tried these accompanying my guitar and vocals and they work pretty well. All that is needed is a link between the bass line and the pitch of the chord being played to provide an adequate accompaniment. TC Helicon have achieved this kind of link with their vocal harmonizer. In the case of the TCHelicon harmonizer the harmonies are created very effectively in real time.    

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