Vernon Barnes Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 I think the last 10 years have been a golden age for non-mainstream music but things are looking grim for independent music in the UK, already squeezed by streaming bands have now lost their touring income and the associated merchandise sales due to the pandemic. Two weeks ago Anathema call an end to a 25 year career at least in part to the extra pressures https://www.loudersound.com/news/anathema-go-on-indefinite-hiatus Today Big Big Train announce they have lost two members, while not citing the pandemic the cancellation of this years European and North American tours cannot have helped. From their social media accounts it seems most bands are soldiering on in increasing despair. Venues were already under pressure financially and from developers, how many will survive is unknown. The final deal between the UK and EU is unknown and could result in a massive increase in cost for UK bands touring Europe adding another level of uncertainty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bats brew Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 no one will know, until the virus is under control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 hour ago, batsbrew said: no one will know, until the World leaders are under control. Fyxed! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Roseberry Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, craigb said: no one will know, until the "World leaders" are under control. Fixed x2 ? In Ohio: Gigs (only large clubs can afford full bands) start at 6-7pm... and end at 10:30-11pm Last-call is at 9:45pm. Alcohol sales end at 10pm. Bars have to be closed at 11pm. I don't mind the early gigs... but does the "Rona" only come out at 11:01pm? People are "loading up" at last call... leaving hammered... and/or going to private after-parties to continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Roseberry Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Live Nation recently publicized that they're going to ask performers to take a substantial pay cut. This (naturally) upsets performers... If the venue can only be 1/4 capacity, that means 1/4 the intake. Everyone loses... and ticket prices skyrocket even higher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 I know where it ends... The Rolling Stones are the last band standing. The virus is eradicated and they are the *only* touring band in the world. Footnote: Keef was ground zero for the super anti-body for COVID-19. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bajan Blue Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 21 hours ago, craigb said: Fyxed! ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Musicians will have to get a proper job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, paulo said: Musicians will have to get a proper job. Wat is this thing you are talking abut. A Musician can never be qualified for a proper job ? Telling a Musician to "Act Proper" The gull of it all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vernon Barnes Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 19 minutes ago, paulo said: Musicians will have to get a proper job. This of course was said by the chancellor, in slightly different words. (leaving it at that for for fear of making a TOS violation.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 On 10/8/2020 at 8:33 PM, Vernon Barnes said: This of course was said by the chancellor, in slightly different words. (leaving it at that for for fear of making a TOS violation.) Well, if anyone knows how to get a job that you're not really qualified for, it would be government ministers.? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bats brew Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Coronavirus May Stay for Weeks on Banknotes and Touchscreens surface ---------------68dF----------------86dF---------------104dF Stainless steel--------5.96 days______1.74 days______4.86 hours Polymer note----------6.85 days______2.04 days______4.78 hours Paper note-------------9.13 days______4.32 days______5.39 hours Glass-------------------6.32 days______1.45 days______6.55 hours Cotton------------------5.57 days______1.65 days______none recovered Vinyl--------------------6.34 days______1.4 days______ 9.9 hours scientists at the Australian Centre for Disease Preparedness showed SARS-CoV-2 is “extremely robust,” surviving for 28 days on smooth surfaces such as glass found on mobile phone screens and plastic banknotes at room temperature, or 20 degrees Celsius (68 degrees Fahrenheit). That compares with 17 days survival for the flu virus. it thrives more in cold than hot. https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/coronavirus-can-persist-for-four-weeks-on-banknotes-study-finds/ar-BB19UtuQ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/11/2020 at 5:39 AM, paulo said: Well, if anyone knows how to get a job that you're not really qualified for, it would be government ministers.? And recording engineers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starise Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 In most earlier societies the arts were considered an indulgence. This was mainly because it took everything men had to gather food, protect their families, provide shelter and stay warm enough not to freeze to death in the winter. Somewhere in the hut or cave they might have a flute or drum and maybe on occasion they would gather in groups to make sound when all else was tended to. When kings began to conquer and tax ,people began to take on more specialized roles and music came along as a "trade". Probably mostly payed by the king for his court music, and who knows? They likely had other less visible things they were required to do, even then. When a war came along they were required to march with the soldiers. Could have also been stand in soldiers if needed. Music the way we know it is radically different than music once was. The 50's right up until online streaming began to kill artist income were a sort of golden age of music. Artists made millions in the late 60's through the 90's. Some still are making money but not many. Most musicians I know who gig regularly do it as a sideline to a full time job because it just doesn't pay the bills. This was before the virus hit. Gigs are almost non existent now. In essence the public now only has one source to get music, online. It's a fact most musicians are not very good business people and wouldn't know their head from a hole in the ground when it comes to making huge piles of cash. They spent their lives learning to play not analyzing business practices. The main way these guys made money in the past was they had big business onboard via record companies who funded, promoted and pushed their acts. Sometimes the record companies begged them to sign up, other times they begged the record companies. They were the only ones who had the muscle to get you on an NFL half time show or promote you to magazines and radio stations. Now that everything is consolidated under Big Brother through streaming services, they can pretty much decide what's hot and what's not. Music has been lobotomized and the virus just made it worse. Now do you want the bad news? lol. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 10:54 PM, Bapu said: And recording engineers? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) In my case it's an AEA R-84 Edited October 14, 2020 by Bapu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bats brew Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 this would explain why some people get it, EVEN when they've taken what they think are every precaution. case in point: Nick Saban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 23 hours ago, Bapu said: In my case it's an AEA R-84 Does it have a GIGO filter? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, paulo said: Does it have a GIGO filter? Nope. It is what it is (sadly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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