billp Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Just for starters, I'm a veteran CW user from early days and have recently switch to CBB, which been happily using until this morning. As of this morning, I no longer see any synths or plugins in the pop-up menu. I've run the VST scan multiple times, tried resetting and rerunning the scan, but no luck. None of my existing projects find any plugins at all now. Anyone have a suggestion? Many thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 It could be a bad plug-in layout make sure you are using one of the default "Sort by" plug-in layouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 What do you see when you look in the plug in manager? That's the place to sort this out. Use the plug in manager found under tools menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billp Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 (edited) Thank you both for the quick replies. Only the DXi plugs are found when I select sort by type, manufacturer, etc., which I never use. The VST scan finds all of the VSTs (2 and 3) according to the VST scan log. When I open an existing project, it no longer sees any of the VSTs, reports them as missing. Edited June 13, 2020 by billp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, billp said: Only the DXi plugs are found when I select sort by type, manufacturer, etc., which I never use. This is useful. 4 minutes ago, billp said: The VST scan finds all of the VSTs (2 and 3) according to the VST scan log. Was the scan log a result of a VST reset? If not, run a VST reset from Preferences with "Generate Scan Log" enabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billp Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 I had tried a reset. Just tried it again. No change. Only DXis showing. Is there a file that contains or points to a menu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 The "Sort by" layouts are built on the fly from the registry. CbB does build temporary layouts for the "Sort by" layouts. They are stored in the plug-in layout folder. The default location is %appdata%\Cakewalk\Cakewalk Core\Plug-in Menu Layouts. The path is specified in Preferences > File > Folder Locations. After the reset did the message appear saying it created a log? If so, make sure you are looking at the current scan log. Does it indicate it ran to completion? What paths are in the scan path? What version of CbB are your using? What version of the VST scanner? The default path to the Vstscan.exe is C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Shared Utilities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billp Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 Yes it runs to completion. I've scanned the log. Aside from a few plugs that are old and fail, most 90+ are successful. Here's a typical result for one plug. Others look similar: LogFile: C:\Users\Bill Pearson\AppData\Roaming\Cakewalk\Logs\VstScanSandbox.log Saturday, 13 Jun 2020, 09:50:03 Opened Log File ----------------------------- Command line: /VSTRegPerUser/VSTRegKey:"Software\Cakewalk Music Software\Cakewalk\Cakewalk VST X64"/Background/SONARHWND:9376626/ScanVst:"c:\program files\native instruments\kontakt 4\vstplugins 64 bit\Kontakt 4.dll"/ToastGuid:{475EDB57-E691-4165-AD5F-01461C97798E} Flag: VSTRegPerUser Flag: VSTRegKey:"Software\Cakewalk Music Software\Cakewalk\Cakewalk VST X64" Flag: Background Flag: SONARHWND:9376626 Flag: ScanVst:"c:\program files\native instruments\kontakt 4\vstplugins 64 bit\Kontakt 4.dll" VST to scan - c:\program files\native instruments\kontakt 4\vstplugins 64 bit\Kontakt 4.dll Flag: ToastGuid:{475EDB57-E691-4165-AD5F-01461C97798E} VSTSCAN: ******* Analyzing VST plugins... VSTSCAN: ---- 1: c:\program files\native instruments\kontakt 4\vstplugins 64 bit\Kontakt 4.dll ---- VSTSCAN: [ShortPath] c:\PROGRA~1\NATIVE~1\KONTAK~1\VSTPLU~2\KONTAK~3.DLL VSTSCAN: [RegKey] Software\Cakewalk Music Software\Cakewalk\Cakewalk VST X64\Inventory\c:/program files/native instruments/kontakt 4/vstplugins 64 bit/Kontakt 4.dll VSTSCAN: ---- Loading VST plugin c:\program files\native instruments\kontakt 4\vstplugins 64 bit\Kontakt 4.dll ---- VSTSCAN: DLL loaded successfully... VSTSCAN: Successfully got entry point. DLL is a VST plugin... VSTSCAN: Calling entry point... VSTSCAN: Created plugin instance... VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effVendorSpecific=50(effVendorSpecific), 1130457957, 000000007FFF0003, 0000000000146DBC, 0.000000 ) VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000000 VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effGetPlugCategory=35(effGetPlugCategory), 0, 0000000000000000, 0000000000000000, 0.000000 ) VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000002 VSTSCAN: Checking Plugin properties... VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effOpen=0(effOpen), 0, 0000000000000000, 0000000000000000, 0.000000 ) VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000000 VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effGetProgram=3(effGetProgram), 0, 0000000000000000, 0000000000000000, 0.000000 ) VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000000 VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effCanDo=51(effCanDo), 0, 0000000000000000, 00000001400484A0, 0.000000 ) VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effGetPlugCategory=35(effGetPlugCategory), 0, 0000000000000000, 0000000000000000, 0.000000 ) VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000002 VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effSetSampleRate=10(effSetSampleRate), 0, 0000000000000000, 0000000000000000, 44100.000000 ) VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000000 VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effSetBlockSize=11(effSetBlockSize), 0, 0000000000000200, 0000000000000000, 0.000000 ) VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000000 VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effCanDo=51(effCanDo), 0, 0000000000000000, 0000000140045538, 0.000000 ) VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000001 VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effGetVendorString=47(effGetVendorString), 0, 0000000000000000, 00000000001494D0, 0.000000 ) VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000001 VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effGetEffectName=45(effGetEffectName), 0, 0000000000000000, 00000000001498D0, 0.000000 ) VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000001 VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effGetProductString=48(effGetProductString), 0, 0000000000000000, 00000000001490D0, 0.000000 ) VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000001 VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effCanDo=51(effCanDo), 0, 0000000000000000, 0000000140045508, 0.000000 ) VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000001 VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effVendorSpecific=50(effVendorSpecific), 1936999233, 0000000046554944, 0000000000148FB0, 0.000000 ) VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000000 VSTSCAN: > dispatcher( effClose=1(effClose), 0, 0000000000000000, 0000000000000000, 0.000000 ) VSTSCAN: < dispatcher = 0000000000000001 VSTSCAN: Finished checking plugin properties... VSTSCAN: Unloading VST dll... VSTSCAN: VST plugin successfully scanned VSTSCAN: WRITE VST DATA... VSTSCAN: WRITE VST DATA - successfully wrote complete VST plugin inventory record... VSTSCAN: Finished analyzing VST plugins - 1 of 1 VST plugins were scanned in this run Closing log file Saturday, 13 Jun 2020, 09:50:03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 That is an individual sandbox log. There should be a main VstScan.log too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billp Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 One more thing: There is a file called Library.db in the AppData folder (AppData\Roaming\Cakewalk\Library) that looks like a SQLite database. A quick scan with a hex editor shows entries for VSTs among other things. Could this file have been corrupted somehow? If so, can it be recreated or refreshed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 It can get corrupted but usually the program will say so. Library.db is a SQLite database and holds the category info Removing/renaming the database causes the program to create a new database with the default categories in it. Does the main VstScan.log indicate the scan ran to completion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billp Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 scook: The menu (pgl) files are present and look like they contain all of the plugins. Yes there are both log files showing substantially the same results. No errors other than the expected failing plugs. No indication that the scan failed or terminated unsuccessfully. I'm using build 2020 05 build 039 64-bit. VST Scanner 6.0.3.0 Scanner paths below. The partially visible one is "c:\program files\native instruments\vstplugins 64 bit" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billp Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 Also, given that all plugins for existing projects are not found when i try to open a project, i think this is beyond a menu problem and so i'm suspecting the Library.db may be corrupt since it looks like there are registry CLSIDs in it. I did restart windows just because...no change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 feel free to rename the database just like the ini files, the database gets recreated if CbB does not find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Is your user folder compressed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billp Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 (edited) I renamed it and it substituted a library with a modified date of 2016. Existing projects still do not find the plugins. The folder is not compressed. Edited June 13, 2020 by billp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Is any part of the drive compressed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billp Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 (edited) No compression on any of my drives. Just browsed through the library.db file with SQLite browser and file opens, looks like plugins and other resources are defined. No error in opening the db, so it's probably not corrupted. So maybe there is some other connection between the plugins and the library.db and CBB that has been corrupted. Also, Kontakt and a couple of other plugs work as stand-alones. I run as Admin and UAC is disabled. I get the typical error when things are not registered. Here's a simple sample project: Edited June 13, 2020 by billp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Is the PC modules menu populated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billp Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 Not familiar with PC modules menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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