Ever Melodyned a Melodyne Section?

[razor7music]

Hey Group--

I'm not in front of my DAW right now, but  I have a couple notes to correct in a vocal track that I've already applied pitch correction to and bounced to clip(s).  I've got the original track of the dry vocal, so I can always go back and start again, but I wondered if any of you have  applied Melodyne to a track that you'd already processed and printed with Melodyne  ? Any audible artifacts when you do that?

I record in 24/96 and have the 64-bit engine in CW enabled (if that matters here). I'm running the most current version of Melodyne Editor 4.

Many thanks!

 

Stephen

Edited February 15, 2019 by razor7music

[MorganT]

I have done that many times and have not noted any artifact.

I suppose if you were doing major edits (formants, big pitch or timing changes) to previously edited material it might be noticeable.  But I've not noted any problems.

[Paul G]

Like Morgan says.  I've never noticed an issue outside of extreme moves.

HTH

[paulo]

I've done it and not noticed anything that stands out in a mix.

In a related subject - has anyone ever corrected the pitch of something in melodyne,  bounced to clip and then later re-opened the same clip in melodyne and found that the corrected notes are displayed as still  being some way off pitch?

[razor7music]

OK, thanks all. That will save me a lot of time not to have to grab the dry vocal track and start all over again!

[treesha]

I have double melodyned with no artifacts. I have seen notes be slightly off when i apply melodyne a second time after i had corrected the pitches the first time.  

[paulo]

10 hours ago, treesha said:

I have seen notes be slightly off when i apply melodyne a second time after i had corrected the pitches the first time.  

Thank you for confirming that I'm not going mad, or at least that if I am I'm not alone.

[razor7music]

Confirmed. Last night I re-corrected single notes that had been printed with corrections previously with no noticeable artifacts. Saved me a lot of time.

Thanks all!

[Paul G]

On 2/15/2019 at 5:26 PM, paulo said:

In a related subject - has anyone ever corrected the pitch of something in melodyne,  bounced to clip and then later re-opened the same clip in melodyne and found that the corrected notes are displayed as still  being some way off pitch?

Yes.  I think it has to do with how Melodyne interprets the pitch and breaks it into blobs. 

For example, if you split a blob into several segments you'll see these new  blobs readjust to different pitches.  Make some adjustments and then render.  If you re-open that clip in Melodyne it will reanalyze the note pitches and the blobs well look different but the audio will sound the same.  I see this all the time because when I edit in Melodyne I typically will split a blob into several pieces and make my corrections more surgical.

HTH

Paul

[paulo]

12 hours ago, Paul G said:

Yes.  I think it has to do with how Melodyne interprets the pitch and breaks it into blobs. 

For example, if you split a blob into several segments you'll see these new  blobs readjust to different pitches.  Make some adjustments and then render.  If you re-open that clip in Melodyne it will reanalyze the note pitches and the blobs well look different but the audio will sound the same.  I see this all the time because when I edit in Melodyne I typically will split a blob into several pieces and make my corrections more surgical.

HTH

Paul

 

Thanks for replying. I do split the notes up too, I just figured that once spilt, moved and rendered that they would stay where they were. As you say the sound is ok, just the display looks off.

If I live to be 100 it still won't feel right to call them blobs. ?

[treesha]

Thanks for the explanation. It makes sense. I do a lot of splitting too and pitch adjustments so a 2 nd analysis of course would create different results.