razor7music Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) Hey Group-- I'm not in front of my DAW right now, but I have a couple notes to correct in a vocal track that I've already applied pitch correction to and bounced to clip(s). I've got the original track of the dry vocal, so I can always go back and start again, but I wondered if any of you have applied Melodyne to a track that you'd already processed and printed with Melodyne ? Any audible artifacts when you do that? I record in 24/96 and have the 64-bit engine in CW enabled (if that matters here). I'm running the most current version of Melodyne Editor 4. Many thanks! Stephen Edited February 15, 2019 by razor7music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganT Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I have done that many times and have not noted any artifact. I suppose if you were doing major edits (formants, big pitch or timing changes) to previously edited material it might be noticeable. But I've not noted any problems. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul G Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Like Morgan says. I've never noticed an issue outside of extreme moves. HTH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I've done it and not noticed anything that stands out in a mix. In a related subject - has anyone ever corrected the pitch of something in melodyne, bounced to clip and then later re-opened the same clip in melodyne and found that the corrected notes are displayed as still being some way off pitch? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razor7music Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 OK, thanks all. That will save me a lot of time not to have to grab the dry vocal track and start all over again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treesha Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I have double melodyned with no artifacts. I have seen notes be slightly off when i apply melodyne a second time after i had corrected the pitches the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 10 hours ago, treesha said: I have seen notes be slightly off when i apply melodyne a second time after i had corrected the pitches the first time. Thank you for confirming that I'm not going mad, or at least that if I am I'm not alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razor7music Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 Confirmed. Last night I re-corrected single notes that had been printed with corrections previously with no noticeable artifacts. Saved me a lot of time. Thanks all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul G Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 5:26 PM, paulo said: In a related subject - has anyone ever corrected the pitch of something in melodyne, bounced to clip and then later re-opened the same clip in melodyne and found that the corrected notes are displayed as still being some way off pitch? Yes. I think it has to do with how Melodyne interprets the pitch and breaks it into blobs. For example, if you split a blob into several segments you'll see these new blobs readjust to different pitches. Make some adjustments and then render. If you re-open that clip in Melodyne it will reanalyze the note pitches and the blobs well look different but the audio will sound the same. I see this all the time because when I edit in Melodyne I typically will split a blob into several pieces and make my corrections more surgical. HTH Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 12 hours ago, Paul G said: Yes. I think it has to do with how Melodyne interprets the pitch and breaks it into blobs. For example, if you split a blob into several segments you'll see these new blobs readjust to different pitches. Make some adjustments and then render. If you re-open that clip in Melodyne it will reanalyze the note pitches and the blobs well look different but the audio will sound the same. I see this all the time because when I edit in Melodyne I typically will split a blob into several pieces and make my corrections more surgical. HTH Paul Thanks for replying. I do split the notes up too, I just figured that once spilt, moved and rendered that they would stay where they were. As you say the sound is ok, just the display looks off. If I live to be 100 it still won't feel right to call them blobs. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treesha Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Thanks for the explanation. It makes sense. I do a lot of splitting too and pitch adjustments so a 2 nd analysis of course would create different results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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