hockeyjx Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Has anyone had hands on the Z490 and the 10th gen i7s? The clock speed is a little lower on the new ones Micro Center has in stock (a 2.9GHz vs i9-9900k @ 3.6). I am on the fence, even with the newer genration. I was hoping @Jim Roseberry or other folks may shed some light on it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Roseberry Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Yep. Be aware that some Z490 motherboards are active cooled (meaning small high-RPM fan). ie: Gigabyte Z490 Vision D (quality board) looks passive-cooled... but there's a fan under the heatsink. You can hear that tiny fan ramping up with CPU usage. It's high-pitched and annoying. TDP is 125w (about the edge of large/quality air-cooling). Performance of the 10900k is exactly what you'd expect. Take the 9900k, add two more cores (four more processing threads) and increase the clock-speed to 5.3GHz. Fantastic performer. It'll be extremely popular with many DAW users... (super high clock-speed and 20 processing threads). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyjx Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 Got my eye on the ASUS Z490-A Prime ...https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/PRIME-Z490-A/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azslow3 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Jim Roseberry said: You can hear that tiny fan ramping up with CPU usage. It's high-pitched and annoying. ... TDP is 125w (about the edge of large/quality air-cooling). Sorry of off-topic... I have high-pitch noise from my Z390. Not from fan (I have not found any), but still annoying (from googling that is common). And I wish my TDP 95W CPU consumed that 95W by default. My (middle size) air cooler was unable to keep CPU any cool when I was running my fist PRIME95 test... I was disappointed (by the cooler), till I have found that CPU power consumption is over 200W (with all BIOS "defaults"). I mean it seems like "TDP" has no meaning these days (my 9900K consumes from 10W to 250W at its own will, till limited explicitly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIBI Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, Jim Roseberry said: Be aware that some Z490 motherboards are active cooled (meaning small high-RPM fan). ie: Gigabyte Z490 Vision D (quality board) looks passive-cooled... but there's a fan under the heatsink. You can hear that tiny fan ramping up with CPU usage. It's high-pitched and annoying. Can you control RPM of that fan on the BIOS? and just wondering... Which is better choice 9th i9-9900K or 10th i7-10700K? Edited June 2, 2020 by HIBI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyjx Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, HIBI said: Can you control RPM of that fan on the BIOS? and just wondering... Which is better choice 9th i9-9900K or 10th i7-10700K? That's what I am wondering ....whether to go to a gen 10 i7-10700K, or stick with Gen 9. The prices are really similar, and obviously, the newer gen is more forward-thinking. The fan can be controlled in the BIOS from what I read on the Asus site. Edited June 2, 2020 by hockeyjx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Roseberry Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, HIBI said: Can you control RPM of that fan on the BIOS? and just wondering... Which is better choice 9th i9-9900K or 10th i7-10700K? Depends on the motherboard. On the mentioned Gigabyte board, there's zero control over the chipset fan. If the motherboard allows, you can set a "silent" profile. But... when you put the machine under substantial load, that tiny fan is going to ramp-up. It'll be quiet when idle... but loud when working. As a test, I loaded a Premier Pro project with a video noise-reduction plugin. CPU use was ~70%. Tiny fan was busy/loud/annoying ? I'd opt for the 9900k vs the 10700k. Performance wise, it's a toss-up. 9900k has TDP of 95w 10700k has TDP of 125w Edited June 2, 2020 by Jim Roseberry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Roseberry Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 When working with large low-RPM fans, it's much easier to mitigate noise. With small high-RPM fans, it's nigh on impossible to eliminate the noise (while under any significant load). Threadripper motherboards are a great example. Sound like you're flying a small model airplane. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyjx Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 I went with the Asus, we'll see how it goes. The one BIG advantage reading up on it was this: it will support both 10th gen and 11th gen processors. Probably will start building tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyjx Posted June 4, 2020 Author Share Posted June 4, 2020 I put the machine together. Looking good so far and the benchmarks are solid. Asus dropped a BIOS update today as well, so all good ...not noisy at all (and I haven't put the lid on the Silent Case yet) @Jim Roseberry. Never have problems with Asus setups! Starting to migrate programs at the moment. Asus Prime Z490-A Intel Core i7-10700 Comet Lake 2.9GHz Eight-Core 32GB G.Skill Ripjaws 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Roseberry Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Yeah, not all boards are active cooled. ? In my example, I needed two Thunderbolt-3 ports. Asus changed the Thunderbolt header on their Z470 motherboards that have them (including the Prime Z490-A). IOW, The existing Thunderbolt EX3 won't work. You need the Thunderbolt EX3-TR (which isn't yet available). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razor7music Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 I used to use this app Speed Fan for fan speed noise. It's been many years, so do your homework. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyjx Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 3 hours ago, razor7music said: I used to use this app Speed Fan for fan speed noise. It's been many years, so do your homework. Thoughts? I will put it through the proper paces this weekend, but so far, it is really quiet. The Asus Fan Xpert seems pretty decent on first test, and I also have a big cooler & fan on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razor7music Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 hour ago, hockeyjx said: I will put it through the proper paces this weekend, but so far, it is really quiet. The Asus Fan Xpert seems pretty decent on first test, and I also have a big cooler & fan on it. Be really careful with the app. If you don't configure it correctly, it could crash you computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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