David Owen Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 I'm trying to update an older version of Cakewalk by Bandlab on my Windows 7 laptop, but it isn't able to detect and show the last version that was used for Windows 7. Is there a location to download it. Thanks for any assistance! Groovus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Although not officially supported, the latest version of Cakewalk should work fine with Windows 7. Download the latest version of BandLab Assistant, then go to the Apps tab to update: https://www.bandlab.com/products/cakewalk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Owen Posted May 25, 2020 Author Share Posted May 25, 2020 Is that merely because Windows 7 is no longer supported by Microsoft, or is there a technical reason why it's not supported? Thanks for any insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 It's partly because Windows 7 is no longer supported by Microsoft, partly down to us not having the resources to test unsupported OS's, but mostly down to future development being potentially held back due to older operating systems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Tubbs Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 I use cakewalk bandlab on a win7 rig and it works fine. and it won’t overwrite your old cake version already o your hard drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 18 hours ago, msmcleod said: It's partly because Windows 7 is no longer supported by Microsoft, partly down to us not having the resources to test unsupported OS's, but mostly down to future development being potentially held back due to older operating systems. Please, please, please can somebody fix the undo synth unfreeze bug that hides the synth track before it's no longer possible to install on win7. TIA.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simple Verse Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 I have the version 2020.11 (build 099) 64 bit, but now when I launched the program after a long break, I saw notice of an available update. I tried to install it, but once it was ready to go after download I got another message that it's not supported by Windows 7. Is that true that the latest updates won't work in Win 7 anymore at all like the one I have? I remember even the one I have was not "officially" compatible or supported by Windows 7, but practically it was all fine. Is it the same with the latest updates, or is Win7 now completely incompatible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syphus Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 On 8/27/2021 at 9:51 AM, Simple Verse said: I have the version 2020.11 (build 099) 64 bit, but now when I launched the program after a long break, I saw notice of an available update. I tried to install it, but once it was ready to go after download I got another message that it's not supported by Windows 7. Is that true that the latest updates won't work in Win 7 anymore at all like the one I have? I remember even the one I have was not "officially" compatible or supported by Windows 7, but practically it was all fine. Is it the same with the latest updates, or is Win7 now completely incompatible? At some point Cakewalk MAY not be compatible with Windows 7. At this point, the developers do not do any testing on Win 7 so there could be issues now or in the future that could be related to running Cakewalk on the older version of windows. That being said, the installer will install the latest version on Win 7, but you do so at your own risk. I have not update my OS to Win 10 as of yet and I have not found any major problems with running Cakewalk with Win 7. A minor glitch here and there but nothing that has not been documented in the forums. If you do run into problems there with all ways be the disclaimer stated about Win 7 not being supported . . . Just say'n . . . So far I still running Win 7 with Cake . . . And as always, there is usually an installer available to revert to the last (previous) version. Keep in mind if your version is older (like a year for example) there may not be one (last version installer) available. So since you have installed the latest (I believe that is what you indicated), if the next version does not work for you, you could come back to whatever you just installed. Hope that helps with your question. Syphus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 16 hours ago, Syphus said: ...At this point, the developers do not do any testing on Win 7 ...as of yet and I have not found any major problems with running Cakewalk with Win 7. .. I'm using Windows 7 too. I guess it's us who do the testing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simple Verse Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) Thanks for the replies and insights. Where do you obtain those old (or even the latest) installation .exe files as a separate files that can be stored somewhere? And activated without Internet connection? The activation request was another issue I came across after the long break. I though once it's activated it will remain so forever. Even if I don't use the PC for a year or two. But it was not the case. And I had some problems signing in through the log in box popping up on the launch. However, I managed to activate it after or alongside the aborted update procedure. So I must look for off-line activation in case I lose internet connection at some point. Look up Cyber Polygon simulation event that took place on 9th of July, last month. If global cyber attacks will take place and the system will collapse it's good to have something to do at home, like making music with activated tools;) Edited August 29, 2021 by Simple Verse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 12 hours ago, Kev said: I'm using Windows 7 too. I guess it's us who do the testing. Yup. Still on 2020.09 here anyway, so aside from one bug fix that I have given up asking for now, not really a big deal for me if it stops working on 7 at any point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 I still have W7 computer that was built by me to be my DAW machine. It rarely saw the internet and ran Sonar 8.5. It’s in the closet right now but a while ago I fired it up and it still works. I put CbB on it then and had no issues but it was real slow! I disconnected the C drive ( 7200) and put a SSD drive in it. I managed to install windows 10 for free using the W7 license. What a difference those things made. But I’m keeping the W7 drive as a last resort if things go sideways with Cakewalk That’s one of the things we over look. W10 and CbB is much more responsive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simple Verse Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, John Vere said: That’s one of the things we over look. W10 and CbB is much more responsive. Maybe it was the SSD alone that made the difference? I thought Win10 is slower in every sense, unless you debloat it. However, maybe I should make another topic of this, but I found this article where it says the activation must be done every 6 months?! What about the off-line activation. I haven't found the instructions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 No Cakewalk is optimized for W10 and there’s been many changes since W10 came out to both. Cakewalk is a windows only DAW so it’s very integrated to windows. You would really notice a difference if you brought everything up to date. The other day I had to fire up my Windows XP machine to print CDs. My printer is that old. Man is that slow. W10 is probably the best OS in my lifetime and I really have no issues. Because people complained I think they backed off on the bloat ware so that’s old info. I only keep my old OS systems going because of hardware compatibility issues. I would not want to go back to W7 for daily tasks. It too slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kelley Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) I had to re-activate Cakewalk today in order to continue to use it. This required that I download an update. As a result, Cakewalk no longer works on my Windows 7 machine. I see the user interface, the controls operate, but I can no longer get audio from it. Edited October 7, 2021 by Jim Kelley typo, added more info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 @Jim Kelley - I've got the latest version of Cakewalk ( 2021.09.145 ) running on my Windows 7 64 boot, with no issues. If you're having issues, I'd check the following: 1. Make sure Windows 7 is fully up to date with Windows updates 2. Ensure you've got the latest VC++ redists installed. The latest ones can be found here: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-160 You'll want to install the x64 version of the redists for "Visual Studio 2012", "Visual Studio 2013" and "Visual Studio 2015, 2017, 2019, and 2022" 3. Ensure you've got TLS1.2 enabled as default for Cakewalk authorisation to work: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/update-to-enable-tls-1-1-and-tls-1-2-as-default-secure-protocols-in-winhttp-in-windows-c4bd73d2-31d7-761e-0178-11268bb10392 . Assuming you're up to date with Windows Updates, you can jump directly to the "Easy Fix" section on this page: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/update-to-enable-tls-1-1-and-tls-1-2-as-default-secure-protocols-in-winhttp-in-windows-c4bd73d2-31d7-761e-0178-11268bb10392#bkmk_easy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard B Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 (edited) Many Years Later... So I have set up an older Zotac computer with 4 GB of RAM & Windows 7 just for recording straight up tracks off the floor in a room away from my studio. I don't need any plugin effects. Just the ability to record twelve to sixteen 24 bit 48 kHz tracks so I can then transport the tracks back to my studio computer and continue working on the songs from there. My thought is that an older version of CW or bandlab might be a lighter program for this older 4 GB machine. So my question is, which of the past versions would be best suited for the job? Back in the 90s (I know...old dude lol) I was recording on a Pentium 1 with 128 MB ? of RAM using Cakewalk 9 (Windows 98 Second Edition). I mean I would just use CW9 to capture the tracks but I don't believe it will work on Win 7 (though I'm tempted to try it). If I was able to capture tracks on an old machine with such limited RAM and a light duty DAW then it should run like a top on a 4 GB newer system. As I said though it'll probably need to be a newer version. I'm just spit balling here so any input would be appreciated. Thanks in Advance Edited May 25 by Howard B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeringAmps Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 @Howard B Any of Sonar 1 thru 8.5 run fine on my Win 7x86 rig. (x86 being best for 4gb of ram) As do Sonar X1, X2 or X3. Your best bet, IMHO, would be Sonar Platinum if you have it. All of these should be available for download from the old Command Center. You'll have to sift thru the forum to get the new web address for the CC. HTH, t 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 You need to be aware that CbB will soon be de-activated as Sonar is replacing it. None of the CbB versions from the last 7 years can be activated anymore. Only the last sunset version from this year can be activated. Sonar will not run on W7. So as said above you would need to use Sonar from pre Bandlab ownership to use it on W7. I also have a 2008 Sony laptop that I have used for recording live bands using W7 and CbB. That’s the end of that. But I also have Sonar Home Studio on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard B Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 I loaded Cakewalk Pro Audio 9 and it worked but I made the mistake of loading the Direct Show 5 and that messed up my system some. Luckily I was able to backup to the previous day and all was back to normal. So CW PA9 works and all but it would only recognize 4 of the inputs on the US-1800. That's pretty much a deal breaker so I just went ahead and loaded up Sonar X3 PE and it's working great so far. I'm actually right in the middle of seeing what this old W7 machine can do. I'm going to try and record 12 tracks at 24 bit 48kHz for 10 minutes and if I don't get any pops or dropouts I'll give 96kHz a try. I'll be happy with 48 but I gotta try 96 just to see 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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