Barry Seymour Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) I'm really proud of this one. Let me know if you hear anything that needs tweaking or improving. EDIT: Sorry, everyone, for some reason Soundcloud can't find this, even though the link is right.https://soundcloud.com/barry-seymour/the-kind-of-man-who-does-whats-right Edited May 19, 2020 by Barry Seymour 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hidden Symmetry Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Good tune & songwriting Barry. I'm on laptop so can't really judge the mix but the vocals seem to be very wide & eq'd where they're not blending with the instruments. Hard to tell, maybe an effect you'e going for & it's not translating over these crappy speakers. Anyway I enjoyed the song, great job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Seymour Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 44 minutes ago, Hidden Symmetry said: Good tune & songwriting Barry. I'm on laptop so can't really judge the mix but the vocals seem to be very wide & eq'd where they're not blending with the instruments. Hard to tell, maybe an effect you'e going for & it's not translating over these crappy speakers. Anyway I enjoyed the song, great job. I kind of wanted to go for an isolated, simple sound with the vocals. It's just guitar, bass, lead and a single strings line. (Strings are new to me, I'm lovin' 'em.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hidden Symmetry Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Ah, I get what you were going for now. Again, nice tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Not my thing, but I do suspect that your Vocal is out of phase or you are using a widen FX on them, which for me here on the Adam's results in the vocal sounding almost three feet in front of the monitors whilst everything else is sort of glued in the middle. You have obviously spent some time on the lyrics which work well with the tune. Thanks for sharing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Seymour Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 40 minutes ago, Wookiee said: Not my thing, but I do suspect that your Vocal is out of phase or you are using a widen FX on them, which for me here on the Adam's results in the vocal sounding almost three feet in front of the monitors whilst everything else is sort of glued in the middle. You have obviously spent some time on the lyrics which work well with the tune. Thanks for sharing. I used reverb and surround sound on the acoustic guitar and the vocals. I'll review the settings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Barry Seymour said: surround sound on the acoustic guitar and the vocals That would explain the Haas effect making the vocals sound forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeringAmps Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Your storytelling as always is excellent. As personal as your tunes are, all I can say is I feel for you! t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Seymour Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 17 minutes ago, DeeringAmps said: Your storytelling as always is excellent. As personal as your tunes are, all I can say is I feel for you! t While I thank you for the thought, this is not my story, thankfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Seymour Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Wookiee said: That would explain the Haas effect making the vocals sound forward. This? https://mixcoach.com/creating-depth-the-haas-effect-2/ Intriguing. I'll have to research this. Interestingly, when I listen to this on my work computer with a single-ear mono headset, I hear no vocals at all! Something weird going on in this mix for sure... Edited May 18, 2020 by Barry Seymour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjornpdx Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 I didn't notice anything unusual about the voc until ~4:40. Just sounded different like maybe different recording environment. I like the "supposed to be kind of man" and "got to be kind of man" like maybe he's not such a devoted husband and just doing what he's doing for appearance. Nice bass line throughout. I expected a chord change at "I went out for groceries" IDK it just seemed like it was time for it. Had some trouble with "asked out on a date" Seemed like a more subtle word is needed there. IMO. I understand why you're proud of the song. Great job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeringAmps Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Barry Seymour said: this is not my story, thankfully Relived to hear that! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Kirby Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Good job Barry - that's a really good song - I enjoyed the listen. Very sad song - but excellent lyrics. Regarding the mix - you're vocal is way up front and everything else is way back - but maybe that's what you want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Seymour Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Douglas Kirby said: Good job Barry - that's a really good song - I enjoyed the listen. Very sad song - but excellent lyrics. Regarding the mix - you're vocal is way up front and everything else is way back - but maybe that's what you want. It kind of is. I want the vocal to sit right inside the listener's head, like this is a personal story. I have an update, will post momentarily... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn Wilson Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 I don't know which version I just listened to twice, but I like it a lot. It does seem like your voice has a presence to it that I rarely hear, and I just love it. All I would ask for is a louder guitar solo that stands up to the vocal a tad more, but...it's good to go as is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Seymour Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Lynn said: I don't know which version I just listened to twice, but I like it a lot. It does seem like your voice has a presence to it that I rarely hear, and I just love it. All I would ask for is a louder guitar solo that stands up to the vocal a tad more, but...it's good to go as is. I kept going back and forth on that. In the end, I wanted it to blend more with the strings, kind of like a co-equal voice. Interesting side note on that, that is a Takamine acoustic guitar with built-in pickups. I used one of the included VSTs and it sounds like frickin' Brian May! (The tone quality, at least.) This is a do-over; I re-sang the vocals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhonoBrainer Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Lyrics are great, storytelling is a strength of yours. I noticed the lack of center, which is acceptable in instruments, but disconcerting in the vocals. But your voice has an awesome timbre! There's a couple of clipping pops you might want to track down, for example 3:50 and 4:07 - and both of these are at the beginning of a vocal line. Whatever is taking it out of the center is loading, or overloading, the sides. This could be a clue? If it's a mono vocal (as most are) are you processing it with any stereo plugins? If so, maybe switch 'em out for mono processors, you never know. Anyhoo, to the extent the song is autobiographical, it's a story very well told and my condolences on your situation. cheers, -Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Seymour Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 10 hours ago, emeraldsoul said: Lyrics are great, storytelling is a strength of yours. I noticed the lack of center, which is acceptable in instruments, but disconcerting in the vocals. But your voice has an awesome timbre! There's a couple of clipping pops you might want to track down, for example 3:50 and 4:07 - and both of these are at the beginning of a vocal line. Whatever is taking it out of the center is loading, or overloading, the sides. This could be a clue? If it's a mono vocal (as most are) are you processing it with any stereo plugins? If so, maybe switch 'em out for mono processors, you never know. Anyhoo, to the extent the song is autobiographical, it's a story very well told and my condolences on your situation. cheers, -Tom Thanks for the kind words. Again, not my story, thankfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Guy Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 A truly heavy tune, well delivered. The only thing I would suggest is that you play the lead line on your accoustic guitar. The introduction of the electric that late in the song almost broke the mood for me. Strong lyrics, nonetheless. Bert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Seymour Posted May 26, 2020 Author Share Posted May 26, 2020 On 5/24/2020 at 12:26 AM, Bert Guy said: A truly heavy tune, well delivered. The only thing I would suggest is that you play the lead line on your accoustic guitar. The introduction of the electric that late in the song almost broke the mood for me. Strong lyrics, nonetheless. Bert Ironically, it was played on an acoustic guitar, but I added the TH3 guitar effects VST and distorted it. I wanted it to be searing. Thanks for the input, and the kind words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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