Eric LoVullo Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Okay so not sure where to start. After installing Windows 10 Sonar has become almost unusable. And for the life of me I can't see what is wrong. My computer is a i7-4770k and I have 16gb of RAM. This setup worked fine with Windows 7 (though I still think there was something off with that setup as well). This is what LatencyMon says "Your system seems to be having difficulty handling real-time audio and other tasks. You may experience drop outs, clicks or pops due to buffer underruns. One or more DPC routines that belong to a driver running in your system appear to be executing for too long. One problem may be related to power management, disable CPU throttling settings in Control Panel and BIOS setup. Check for BIOS updates. " Please help Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 What is your sound card? Are you using WiFi rather than a wired network? Have you set power setting to maximum performance? Have you disabled Power management on your USB ports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric LoVullo Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 Soundcard is Native instruments Komplete Audio one I am using WIFI Power is set to maximum performance All USB root hub power are disabled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric LoVullo Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 Here is the LatencyMon report if that helps _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ CONCLUSION _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Your system seems to be having difficulty handling real-time audio and other tasks. You may experience drop outs, clicks or pops due to buffer underruns. One or more DPC routines that belong to a driver running in your system appear to be executing for too long. One problem may be related to power management, disable CPU throttling settings in Control Panel and BIOS setup. Check for BIOS updates. LatencyMon has been analyzing your system for 0:10:08 (h:mm:ss) on all processors. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ SYSTEM INFORMATION _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Computer name: DESKTOP-6OQ43VT OS version: Windows 10 , 10.0, build: 18363 (x64) Hardware: All Series, ASUS, ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC., Z87-PRO CPU: GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz Logical processors: 8 Processor groups: 1 RAM: 16322 MB total _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ CPU SPEED _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Reported CPU speed: 3506 MHz Note: reported execution times may be calculated based on a fixed reported CPU speed. Disable variable speed settings like Intel Speed Step and AMD Cool N Quiet in the BIOS setup for more accurate results. WARNING: the CPU speed that was measured is only a fraction of the CPU speed reported. Your CPUs may be throttled back due to variable speed settings and thermal issues. It is suggested that you run a utility which reports your actual CPU frequency and temperature. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ MEASURED INTERRUPT TO USER PROCESS LATENCIES _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ The interrupt to process latency reflects the measured interval that a usermode process needed to respond to a hardware request from the moment the interrupt service routine started execution. This includes the scheduling and execution of a DPC routine, the signaling of an event and the waking up of a usermode thread from an idle wait state in response to that event. Highest measured interrupt to process latency (µs): 1451.70 Average measured interrupt to process latency (µs): 5.041415 Highest measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs): 1419.40 Average measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs): 2.085342 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ REPORTED ISRs _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Interrupt service routines are routines installed by the OS and device drivers that execute in response to a hardware interrupt signal. Highest ISR routine execution time (µs): 222.179122 Driver with highest ISR routine execution time: dxgkrnl.sys - DirectX Graphics Kernel, Microsoft Corporation Highest reported total ISR routine time (%): 0.052076 Driver with highest ISR total time: dxgkrnl.sys - DirectX Graphics Kernel, Microsoft Corporation Total time spent in ISRs (%) 0.108668 ISR count (execution time <250 µs): 356515 ISR count (execution time 250-500 µs): 0 ISR count (execution time 500-999 µs): 0 ISR count (execution time 1000-1999 µs): 0 ISR count (execution time 2000-3999 µs): 0 ISR count (execution time >=4000 µs): 0 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ REPORTED DPCs _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ DPC routines are part of the interrupt servicing dispatch mechanism and disable the possibility for a process to utilize the CPU while it is interrupted until the DPC has finished execution. Highest DPC routine execution time (µs): 1468.067313 Driver with highest DPC routine execution time: Wdf01000.sys - Kernel Mode Driver Framework Runtime, Microsoft Corporation Highest reported total DPC routine time (%): 0.123599 Driver with highest DPC total execution time: Wdf01000.sys - Kernel Mode Driver Framework Runtime, Microsoft Corporation Total time spent in DPCs (%) 0.199522 DPC count (execution time <250 µs): 1368370 DPC count (execution time 250-500 µs): 0 DPC count (execution time 500-999 µs): 892 DPC count (execution time 1000-1999 µs): 21 DPC count (execution time 2000-3999 µs): 0 DPC count (execution time >=4000 µs): 0 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ REPORTED HARD PAGEFAULTS _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Hard pagefaults are events that get triggered by making use of virtual memory that is not resident in RAM but backed by a memory mapped file on disk. The process of resolving the hard pagefault requires reading in the memory from disk while the process is interrupted and blocked from execution. NOTE: some processes were hit by hard pagefaults. If these were programs producing audio, they are likely to interrupt the audio stream resulting in dropouts, clicks and pops. Check the Processes tab to see which programs were hit. Process with highest pagefault count: cakewalk.exe Total number of hard pagefaults 2578 Hard pagefault count of hardest hit process: 446 Number of processes hit: 41 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ PER CPU DATA _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ CPU 0 Interrupt cycle time (s): 29.083881 CPU 0 ISR highest execution time (µs): 170.539646 CPU 0 ISR total execution time (s): 5.092025 CPU 0 ISR count: 337372 CPU 0 DPC highest execution time (µs): 1468.067313 CPU 0 DPC total execution time (s): 9.289516 CPU 0 DPC count: 1325704 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ CPU 1 Interrupt cycle time (s): 9.573997 CPU 1 ISR highest execution time (µs): 222.179122 CPU 1 ISR total execution time (s): 0.184423 CPU 1 ISR count: 13345 CPU 1 DPC highest execution time (µs): 778.859099 CPU 1 DPC total execution time (s): 0.215019 CPU 1 DPC count: 11165 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ CPU 2 Interrupt cycle time (s): 8.764844 CPU 2 ISR highest execution time (µs): 29.422704 CPU 2 ISR total execution time (s): 0.003134 CPU 2 ISR count: 1852 CPU 2 DPC highest execution time (µs): 174.612094 CPU 2 DPC total execution time (s): 0.060409 CPU 2 DPC count: 8440 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ CPU 3 Interrupt cycle time (s): 9.393039 CPU 3 ISR highest execution time (µs): 33.871934 CPU 3 ISR total execution time (s): 0.002814 CPU 3 ISR count: 1957 CPU 3 DPC highest execution time (µs): 203.524244 CPU 3 DPC total execution time (s): 0.021446 CPU 3 DPC count: 3304 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ CPU 4 Interrupt cycle time (s): 8.145927 CPU 4 ISR highest execution time (µs): 23.286937 CPU 4 ISR total execution time (s): 0.00130 CPU 4 ISR count: 655 CPU 4 DPC highest execution time (µs): 155.980605 CPU 4 DPC total execution time (s): 0.044638 CPU 4 DPC count: 6033 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ CPU 5 Interrupt cycle time (s): 8.721055 CPU 5 ISR highest execution time (µs): 9.274102 CPU 5 ISR total execution time (s): 0.000814 CPU 5 ISR count: 624 CPU 5 DPC highest execution time (µs): 207.105819 CPU 5 DPC total execution time (s): 0.013059 CPU 5 DPC count: 1989 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ CPU 6 Interrupt cycle time (s): 7.955077 CPU 6 ISR highest execution time (µs): 15.800913 CPU 6 ISR total execution time (s): 0.000650 CPU 6 ISR count: 385 CPU 6 DPC highest execution time (µs): 712.393041 CPU 6 DPC total execution time (s): 0.049830 CPU 6 DPC count: 10898 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ CPU 7 Interrupt cycle time (s): 8.604371 CPU 7 ISR highest execution time (µs): 23.140901 CPU 7 ISR total execution time (s): 0.000451 CPU 7 ISR count: 325 CPU 7 DPC highest execution time (µs): 125.694524 CPU 7 DPC total execution time (s): 0.010811 CPU 7 DPC count: 1750 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsinger Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 These are big ones - 56 minutes ago, Eric LoVullo said: Note: reported execution times may be calculated based on a fixed reported CPU speed. Disable variable speed settings like Intel Speed Step and AMD Cool N Quiet in the BIOS setup for more accurate results. Have you done that? Also win10 has a lot of background tasks running by default. Disable the ones you don't need. To see which apps have permission to run in the background, open the Start menu or Start screen and select “Settings.” Click or tap the “Privacy” icon in the Settings window. Scroll down to the bottom of the list and select “Background apps.” You’ll see a list of apps that have permission to run in the background with an “On/Off” toggle. The default setting for each app is “On,” allowing each app to run in the background if it likes. Set any apps you don’t want to run in the background to “Off.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric LoVullo Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 I think I fixed it or at least made it it usable. I made two changes. I removed a old firewire card that I forgot about. It shouldn't have been active but you never know. And I disabled speed step. Thanks rsinger and wookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Also, if you actually are running SONAR at this late date, give the latest version of Cakewalk by BandLab a spin. The audio engine has had some nice optimization performed on it in the 2 years since BandLab's been in charge of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Bone Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Starship Krupa said: Also, if you actually are running SONAR at this late date, give the latest version of Cakewalk by BandLab a spin. The audio engine has had some nice optimization performed on it in the 2 years since BandLab's been in charge of it. I concur - you can install Cakewalk by Bandlab right alongside your existing Sonar install, without issue - most of us that have Sonar keep it, because that allows any of the bundled plugins that came with Platinum to also work in Cakewalk by Bandlab. You just create a Bandlab account, download and install the Bandlab Assistant, launch it, click on Apps, then install Cakewalk from there, and in a 2nd install, add in the Studio Instruments, if they weren't already present by your having Sonar installed. Bob Bone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Richards Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Out of the blue (where did that phrase come from?) my old Win 7 computer was crashing, continuously. I solved the problem. It was throttling, so I was running a computer at half horsepower. I saved my power settings as a custom setting based on high performance, so I didn’t think that was the problem, but it was. So I changed it to high performance and that fixed it. I was running for years with the custom setting so who knows what happened, but it did when one of the last 2 updates was installed. Anyway, all is good again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Nicholls Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, Michael Richards said: Out of the blue (where did that phrase come from?) Clear sky thunder strikes are an actual thing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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