music_fan Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 hello, sometimes I don't understand the logic of midi input in CBL. in this exemple, I set my midi input on my midi controller, after recording my midi track, I set the midi input to none, in order to stop the midi signal input, but the drop box is always staying to omni ! despite I can set 'midi none' on the window track input, but nothing change in the drop box ! I don't understand..., is this a bug ? TIA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Input echo is enabled on the track. An instrument/MIDI track must have a MIDI input other than None when input echo is enabled. Chances are Always Echo Current MIDI Track is enabled. I keep that option off and manually set input echo as needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reginaldStjohn Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 p. 244 of the Cakewalk Reference Guide says the following about "none" None. This option actually sets the Input field to Omni. With this setting the track will respond to any MIDI input coming in on any port (MIDI interface input driver) on any channel. I don't know why. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 When input echo is off, setting input to None causes an instrument/MIDI track to ignore all MIDI data at it's input. When input echo is on, the track must have an input to echo. If the input is set to None it reverts to All Tracks > Onmi. I would like input echo off and disabled regardless of the "Always Echo Current MIDI Track" setting when the track input is set to None. But this is not how CbB works today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
music_fan Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 ok thank's.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartabartfast Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 21 hours ago, scook said: When input echo is off, setting input to None causes an instrument/MIDI track to ignore all MIDI data at it's input. When input echo is on, the track must have an input to echo. If the input is set to None it reverts to All Tracks > Onmi. I would like input echo off and disabled regardless of the "Always Echo Current MIDI Track" setting when the track input is set to None. But this is not how CbB works today. And I would like the documentation to be as clear about this issue as your explanation. The None/Omni conflation in the manual has been a constant source of confusion for years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user 905133 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, slartabartfast said: And I would like the documentation to be as clear about this issue as your explanation. The None/Omni conflation in the manual has been a constant source of confusion for years. TRUE!!! I think I finally resolved it in my head a while ago with: None = "You didn't chose any, so all are chosen for you." Omni = "Either you chose None and all were selected for you, or you chose all." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hideaki Sugai Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 OMG, I was in the same trouble today and spent two hours to find this discussion. Thank you very much, the problem has been solved. But BANDLAB (SONAR) is definitely a non-intuitive and unfriendly DAW ever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASHKULI Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 On 3/30/2020 at 8:50 PM, User 905133 said: TRUE!!! I think I finally resolved it in my head a while ago with: None = "You didn't chose any, so all are chosen for you." Omni = "Either you chose None and all were selected for you, or you chose all." Not really. It is a bug. None means NO INPUT whatsoever, silent, 0, nothing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user 905133 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 On 3/30/2020 at 3:43 PM, slartabartfast said: And I would like the documentation to be as clear about this issue as your explanation. The None/Omni conflation in the manual has been a constant source of confusion for years. On 3/30/2020 at 3:50 PM, User 905133 said: TRUE!!! I think I finally resolved it in my head a while ago with: None = "You didn't chose any, so all are chosen for you." Omni = "Either you chose None and all were selected for you, or you chose all." 10 minutes ago, Evael said: Not really. (1) Are you disagreeing with my agreement with slartabartfast? (2) Are you disagreeing that the solution I found to translate the linguistic conflation works for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASHKULI Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 (1) No (2) Yes Bug is a bug. In this case it is ridiculous bug, more lake semantic, leading to confusion. They can fix it and should fix it. Any other current interpretation will only lead to... constipation. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user 905133 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) On 3/30/2020 at 3:50 PM, User 905133 said: TRUE!!! I think I finally resolved it in my head a while ago with: None = "You didn't chose any, so all are chosen for you." Omni = "Either you chose None and all were selected for you, or you chose all." On 4/17/2020 at 9:53 AM, User 905133 said: (2) Are you disagreeing that the solution I found to translate the linguistic conflation works for me? 1 hour ago, Evael said: (2) Yes LOLOLOLOL! 1 hour ago, Evael said: Any other current interpretation will only lead to... constipation. ? I'd recommend fresh fruits and vegetables for your problem, but they might be hard to find if you have a COVID-19 inspired lock-down in place. I have fresh veggies, but I am not leaving my home and therefore cannot send you any. Good luck with that!!! ? Edited April 19, 2020 by User 905133 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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