Rod L. Short Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 If I add a plugin while playback is happening, I am getting a brief glitch/hiccup. Is there any way to prevent this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Probably has more to do with the plug-ins than anything else. For example, if the plug-in has a large lookahead buffer, the DAW needs to wait for the buffer to fill up to keep all the tracks in sync. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod L. Short Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 Thanks, scook. It seems a bit worse lately than normal. I have also been having lots of sporadic dropouts recently. After doing a lot of research with Latency Mon, I ended up changing a couple settings in my nVidia settings and I raised the msec dropout from the default 250 to 350 in the Config File. Also, it appears that I now need to disconnect from the internet while using Cakewalk. I have been using this program since Sonar 1 and, this is the first time I have ever needed to disconnect from the internet during use. I'm not real sure what is going on. (Oh, also, when I am running Studio One, I have none of these issues and do not need to disconnect from the internet. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 When dropouts occur there should be a toast message containing a dropout code and a link to the help regarding the code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod L. Short Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 Yes, I just learned that this exists in another thread in this forum. The next time it drops out, I will check that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 probably should have added the help link http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=Cakewalk&language=3&help=NewFeatures.18.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Kelley Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I learned long ago to not add plugins while it’s playing. And don’t change certain parameters of some plugins while it’s playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalle Rantaaho Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 11 hours ago, Terry Kelley said: I learned long ago to not add plugins while it’s playing. And don’t change certain parameters of some plugins while it’s playing. I'd be surprised if there were no hiccups adding a plug-in during playback. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod L. Short Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 It didn't used to happen, for me, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitflipper Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 It hasn't ever even occurred to me to try inserting a plugin during playback. Try to imagine all that goes on under the hood when you add a plugin. The plugin and DAW have to enter into a conversation to establish their relationship, e.g. the plugin's I/O needs and what its internal latency is. The plugin has to initialize itself, which, as Steve points out above, may involve significant buffering latency as well as file system overhead from checking licenses and loading default presets. The track may have to be reconfigured if the new plugin happened to force a change to the internal track interleave. All this has to happen within the brief window dictated by your buffer settings or you'll starve the output buffer and get a dropout. Finally, the DAW has to recalculate plugin delay compensation, and if the overall compensation has increased pause playback to get all the tracks back in sync. Like Kalle, I too would be shocked if inserting DSP during playback didn't cause a glitch. If not a full stop. Rod, if this didn't happen to you before, my guess is you were just lucky. Does this happen with any plugin, or certain ones? If the latter, what type of plugin were you inserting when you noticed the glitch? A reverb or delay, perhaps? Also, what are your buffer sizes? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hidden Symmetry Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Keep in mind you could also crash any daw doing this & it could corrupt the project file. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Hidden Symmetry said: Keep in mind you could also crash any daw doing this & it could corrupt the project file. However, Reaper and Studio One are far less likely to do so than say, CbB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod L. Short Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 Bapu Yes, Studio One has been glitchless for me. Cakewalk used to also be glitchless for me, as well. bitflipper I believe it doesn't happen with all plugins. I will try to take note of which ones do it and which ones don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Kelley Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 I can usually get away with it but it crashes enough I don't bother. Stop, insert, tweak, play. Either way, I do get a short delay while it loads and then it keeps going. No surprise with that. One thing I can just about guarantee will cause a crash is changing the Sonitus reverb time settings (pre-delay, etc.) while it's playing. Once in a blue moon only the meters will stop responding. Every other Sonitus plugin seems very well behaved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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