martsave martin s Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) hi there i upload this mix of the song (avec toi) wich is a french lyrics song thank you for listening does it have too much-bass..? too much-brithness..? ect.. first mix edit + bass Edited January 10, 2020 by martsave martin s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martsave martin s Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) oupss the sound is "glitchy" but not on my computer.. edit,ok i found that is the vocal track (i updated the mix) martin Edited January 8, 2020 by martsave martin s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjornpdx Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Is that finger snap supposed to be in there? Kind of hard to ignore it, but good tune. The song seems a little too "narrow" to me, like the instruments need to be separated more. Volume change at 3:30 stands out. Thanks for posting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeringAmps Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) Moving right along Martin, sounding good. 14 hours ago, bjornpdx said: Is that finger snap supposed to be in there? Yeah, I think so; it was really loud in the first mix. Maybe Martin will post the lyrics. Tom Edited January 9, 2020 by DeeringAmps removed a comment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martsave martin s Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 7 hours ago, DeeringAmps said: Is that finger snap supposed to be in there? you both make me think i will remove it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martsave martin s Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 7 hours ago, DeeringAmps said: Moving right along Martin, sounding good. thank you deering 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeringAmps Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Martin, I see you've already posted the new mix, I often wish OP's would leave the original mix available for comparison. The snap was intended to emphasize the 2 and 4; IIRC. Kind of like the percussive "scrape" that's a integral part of Hendrix's cover of Hey Joe, or the constant wood block in All Right Now. The "snap" was "loud" on the original acoustic mix. I don't think I found it distracting in the electric mix. I'm sorry I influenced your final decision. This is your song, your production. I will repeat my request for the lyrics though; With You is about as far as I've gotten. In French would be fine, perhaps preferred. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martsave martin s Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 thank you Tom your coment lead me to make "real' percussion track..! by the time here is the 'percussion' that is on the song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Kirby Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I enjoyed the listen - I think it's a well constructed pop/rock song. Also - you do a good vocal - pleasant to listen to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martsave martin s Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 thank you Douglas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Arwood Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 The bottom seems to soft to me. I have only had my new studio up a few months, so .... I'm not that sure about Freqs yet. I could recommend MCompare. It is one of the best purchases I have made in a good while. You could also set up a multi track song - Put yours on the top track then load 8-10 of your favorite songs in your songs style. You can mute all then solo yours the the commercial song. You might want to lower the commercial song by 8-10 db to get a premastered volume. It is a good test. The bottom sounds too low. There also doesn't seem to be any sub material. Don't know if you meant to do this. Sometimes this is good to help get more volume without distorting. Max Arwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martsave martin s Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) thank you Max,i will experiment on the bass frequencys do you think that is 'lack' of bass on the master? or on the basse & drum track? or both.. (these days people are not listening on good speakers,they listen to cell,PC speakers ect..) thank you Max it's appeciate martin Edited January 10, 2020 by martsave martin s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeringAmps Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) Hey Martin, Gave a good listen to both versions, I like them both. There was a time when low end was controlled by the stylus. Too much low end and the needle hopped out of the groove! I'm more interested in defining the kick (usually some top end boost to get the beater talking) and keeping the mud out of the kick and bass. But at my age, do I need my teeth rattling? So take my advise there with a grain of salt. I like the "snap", and I was wrong about the 2 & 4, its kind of on every other 4and; right? Still looking for those lyrics. My wife listens to the tune, the melody matters, the lyrics not so much. I've always listened to the story, number 1 because if I covered it, I had to sing it. Number 2, as a songwriter I'm always interested in how the story is told. Solo is your Les Paul, neck pickup, maybe the tone rolled off some? If I'm mixing this, I'd go with the edit+bass, pull that snap down just a tad (keep it subtle), master it up and declare victory! Tom Edited January 10, 2020 by DeeringAmps correct spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martsave martin s Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, DeeringAmps said: the melody matters, the lyrics not so much. if fact ,i have just composed the music,the lyrics & the vox(vocals)are composed from my friend 1 hour ago, DeeringAmps said: I'm more interested in defining the kick (usually some top end boost to get the beater talking) and keeping the mud out of the kick and bass. right now in this mix all highs-end are cuted off(drastic EQ..cut (for now im happy about 70\100 of the kick "sound" so i will experiment what you are saying! thanks 1 hour ago, DeeringAmps said: Solo is your Les Paul, neck pickup, maybe the tone rolled off some? it's been a while i record this but i think yes or maybe both pick-up with rool off tone ps(this distorsion sound came from a VS-1824-roland,(amp-similator)so im "stuck" with this distorsion-sound)... that's not bad at all..? 1 hour ago, DeeringAmps said: If I'm mixing this, I'd go with the edit+bass, pull that snap down just a tad (keep it subtle), master it up and declare victory! thanks Tom,what do you mean by ( pull that snap down just a tad) ? do you mean some kind of multiband-compressor? on the master? 1 hour ago, DeeringAmps said: master it up right now i have some EQ on the master wich is [m-EQ-melda-production]-[modern-analoger antress] and a limiter [limiter 6] thank you alot to take your time to listen & coments !! cheer martin Edited January 10, 2020 by martsave martin s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martsave martin s Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 On 1/9/2020 at 8:20 AM, DeeringAmps said: The "snap" was "loud" on the original acoustic mix. I don't think I found it distracting in the electric mix. here is the sample was recorded with a drum-machine,,it's kind of a "hook" but im not sure i will keep it.. https://soundcloud.com/user-852678669/percussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeringAmps Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 51 minutes ago, martsave martin s said: thanks Tom,what do you mean by ( pull that snap down just a tad) ? That percussive "snap", its a wood block or maybe claves, yeah probably claves? To my ears its just a little too loud (just a tad; probably doesn't translate well into French, non?) Pull that fader down, but that's just "to my ears". The signal chain you have on the Master is probably just fine. At some point in every project I throw Ozone on the Master Buss and "master" in place so to speak. And notice the small "m" in the word "master"; I'm not a Mastering Engineer, most here are not! I'm also not a "first call" mix engineer who is sending mixes out to be professionally Mastered. Consequently I "small m" master my tracks "in place". I don't print a mix and then pull that 2-track into a new session to "Master" it. But to each his own! Your song, your production, its done when you feel its done. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martsave martin s Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 30 minutes ago, DeeringAmps said: That percussive "snap", its a wood block or maybe claves, yeah probably claves? To my ears its just a little too loud (just a tad; probably doesn't translate well into French, non?) yes ok i understand now thank you Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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