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Mmmm .. Komplete 13 to 15 is €199 .. I think I recall all previous upgrades were €99?

FYI for all who pass this way. I can say YES to my Q. The KEEP PERSONAL FILES AND APPS does indeed leave everything as it is that was installed in the previous windows 10. I had a 2nd laptop with Win 10 on it and not too worried about it apps/data wise. Now up to Windows 11 pro, ALL latest updates happening no prob. All my apps and data as is. So now I am doing this Win 11 upgrade using the process in the OP on my main laptop. This extends the life of older laptops even further, great stuff. Thanks @Old Joad AND the system is far more slicker now ( Core i5, 16GB ram, 512GB NVME )

So .. to anyone who has done this here & did not do a CLEAN install. Does the KEEP PERSONAL FILES AND APPS do just that? Is all the software installed in your Windows 10 and the data left alone? OR do you still have to reinstall everything after again? Yes I realise one should BACKUP all the data regardless. Im just refering to the already installed application software in your windows 10 for example CW, Office, Reaper, Vegas, Affinity etc etc

Well I suppose now or soon enough, if you still have Win 10 on systems, its worth considering this because after next year - October 14, 2025 - Win 10 is no longer supported or updated which means many apps will stop supporting Win 10 also. Realistically if you still have an old laptop with win 10 ( like I am typing on ), after October 14, 2025 it becomes a dead duck really so this process is probably worth doing

One interesting thing about Tracktion waveform is you can use the FREE Version which is pretty well unrestricted vs alot of other free DAWs. https://www.tracktion.com/products/waveform-free BUT you can then add a choosen feature to the FREE Waveform thats part of the PRO version if you dont want all of whats in the PRO version. So - you can add this Clip Launcher feature ( Similar to Session View in Ableton ) to Waveform Free without having to buy the full Waveform Pro 13. The clip launcher feature costs $30 https://www.tracktion.com/products/waveform-free-expansions

I have been crying out here over the years for CW to do alot of work on the MATRIX view. Basically to make it similar to Abletons SESSION VIEW. This is a fab feature for spawning ideas and creativity. It seems Tracktion waveform 13 has done just this and added what they call the CLIP LAUNCHER. And yes, its essentially Session view in Ableton. In waveform Pro 13 it is launched using letter M and then over right on that panels icon edge click the show clip launcher button:

Where does Cakewalk NEXT fit, this new ground up version of CW going? Its big adv is CROSS PLATFORM as Sonar IS NOT. It does have the XSAMPLER built in. I like NEXTs simplicity ( me a very longtime user of CW, since 90s ). From a marketing perspective i really dont get where NEXT is. Its part of the current sub I think, so you get new SONAR and NEXT. WHY? Whats the point? Most likely you will use SONAR over NEXT feature wise? NEXT is a groundup new DAW, where does it fit one wonders? In my view it should be marketed seperately instead of chucked in as an "aside" with Sonar. I was hoping .. at least .. they would provide a path to NEXT for those in the BETA ( I was in that ) but they cut us off at the June update ( as in more updates ). NEXT still seems to be in Beta ( see link below ). https://bandlab.github.io/cakewalk/contentful/ I also note in the DISCORD Channel that the updates thread stopped at start of July - Beta Version 1.0.1.133

Yip it seems they have "fixed" the issue Yesterday I could get this far. I own Waveform basic 9, 11 & 12 free plus a few of there plugins But today its: So Im beginning to wonder IF I had gone and paid the $59 yesterday would I have got the full version of Pro for that price. We will never know now

I dont want to try the paypal or CC in case I get charged but then it wont work .. as in the install file looks for a previous ver 10, 11 or 12 on my system.

Strange, while logged in it lets me go this far:

That link works once you are logged in and gives price of $59.40 .. but then I dont have Waveform 10,11 or 12. I do have 9 and 8 basic + the free waveform 12 and 13. I assume one needs a previous 10, 11, 12 serial to get this upgrade? I went to checkout and it did not ask for a previous serial or any place to fill in such things ... strange

Is this a trend one wonders. With FL Studio Cloud and Cakewalk NEXT you get inbuilt access to gazillions of samples and one shots etc, while with Loopcloud it is an OUTSIDE via plugin integration to access the samples inside your DAW. The interesting extra with FL Studio Cloud is as part of annual sub of $99 you not alone get access to samples but also to a load of 3rd party Plugins with perpetual usage as long as you sub up. It includes DISTROKID sub by default to distribute your music. Of course this is all integrated inside FL Studio, I dont think you can just use these plugins in any other DAW? AND they also supply cloud mastering tools as part of the deal. Of course you can add FL Studio via a plugin inside Cakewalk etc Cakewalk NEXT is starting down a similar road but for the moment just a samples panel on the right integrated inside the DAW. The general sub for Bandlab has the distro facility also I think. The new trend then is to supply lots of integrations - samples, plugins, mastering tools, distro tools etc. Defintely pushing toward the sub model with lots of extra baubles, not just a DAW. FL Studio is the "ultimate" so far with this idea. Is this what Cakewalk / Bandlab is striving toward I wonder? https://www.image-line.com/fl-cloud/ "Get 65+ plugins, unlimited access to loops and one-shots, AI-powered mastering, and distribution, all right inside FL Studio. "

Picked up 4 of these at JRRSHOP - COZY, KANDY, HYPE and EDEN https://www.jrrshop.com/ujam Used the coupon GROUP and got the lot for $27 or €25

Re trialing .. keep in mind WAVEFORM FREE ( based on latest paid ver ) is very usable I think: https://www.tracktion.com/products/waveform-free comparison chart: https://www.tracktion.com/products/waveform-compare-versions AND - not bad for free I suppose: - Unlimited tracks, clips, folders, & submixes - VST3/VST2/AU/LV2 plugin support

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