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Some forum users have obvious difficulties understanding the rules, here is the main post in this thread: "Hi all - please use this topic to post feedback specific to the 2024.11 release. Release-specific feedback is valuable to us, and consolidating it in a single topic is extremely helpful. We request that discussion in this thread be restricted to issues directly concerning this release, to make it easier for us to assist users. For other topics, kindly use the feature request section or create new posts. Off topic messages will be deleted." And I want to emphasize: this is not written by someone from Bandlab, who "has takeover everything everywhere", but by one of the developers of the Cakewalk team, do you understand the difference? Do you understand the meaning of the word "feedback"? To discuss any (!) other topics, there are other threads on this forum, where anyone can freely discuss anything, suggest anything, talk about the difficulties of their lives and the exchange rate in their country, and publish their work.

Maybe you forgot where you are? Let me remind you: this is a feedback of the latest version of Cakewalk by Bandlab, it is a completely free DAW, and this thread discusses the problems (or charms) of this version. And you write about your poverty in your country, which has absolutely nothing to do with this program and the assessment of its characteristics or quality. And I do not "defend tooth and nail" anything, literally everything works in my Cakewalk, should I sympathize with you, who almost constantly has nothing but problems for several years? Well, as for "sympathetic friends with common sense" - you need to look for such people in social networks, this is not quite the right place for such sentiments, it seems to me. And friendliness has nothing to do with it at all, if you are trying to discuss a completely different DAW IN THIS THREAD, and even from the position of your poverty. Please end this third-party holy war, reread the very first comment from the developers, what can and cannot be written and discussed here.

It seems that several people who are particularly offended by this brand were paid for deliberate and groundless hate, and not for any shortcomings or imperfections, but simply for the sake of denigrating the brand itself. What could be simpler - if you don't like one DAW or brand - switch to any other company, and work in your favorite convenient program, where everything is as you want. But no, you have to constantly condemn these products for an unclear purpose. And also, at the same time, advertise some other third-party products, do you think that this is rational or appropriate in this forum dedicated to Cakewalk?

There is no such thing as a "subscription" to Cakewalk, it is a completely free program, the only requirement is activation via the official website, many other companies use this method for their free (!!!) products. Is someone forcing you to work in DAV from Bandlab or Cakewalk? You are completely free to choose any other program in which everything will be done the way you like.

When you launch Cakewalk by Bandlab, do you constantly hear some kind of sound blaring message from your speakers? Can someone force you to buy something you don't want to buy? Isn't it easier and faster to click the cross in the right corner and close this silent (!!!) message in 2 seconds, than to waste so much time and nerves on indignation and complaints? In your opinion, Microsoft behaves more decently, having started in 2015 a real massive blackmail of ALL (!!!) users, ALL (!!!) hardware manufacturers and software developers, forcing each and every one (!!!) to switch to Windows 10? Have you not complained about this behavior on their forums? Or does Microsoft give you some free versions of its products? And Bandlab improved the former SONAR for 5 years, brought it to an excellent state, and did not take a penny from a single user for this. And now that the Cakewalk team is back in business, and has resurrected a much more powerful version of Sonar, and is predictably raising awareness of their new product with advertising, are you protesting this so much? I'm pretty sure this is a one-time promotional offer of 71% off (!!!) an annual subscription, and that this advertising campaign will soon end, and your ears will no longer hear the constant roar from your speakers.

If you like Reaper and Studio 1 so much, why are you wasting your time and nerves to work in Sonar? If you are satisfied with everything there, wouldn't it be much more rational to work in programs that don't irritate you and are more convenient for you personally? Regarding the evolution of the Sonar interface refinement, the developers have already answered such questions more than once, and the answer was quite clear: the work is in progress, but at the moment, processing small interface details is not the main priority, unlike the work on improving the engine's productivity and the ability to pull a larger number of tracks, instruments and plugins.

What makes you think I'm worried? I don't care what's going on with you, it doesn't concern me. And as for constructiveness - where are at least some details of your settings, at least one (!!!) screenshot of the problems you describe, where is at least one dump file with the contents of such numerous failures? So far you have never confirmed your stories with a single fact, and this is just empty chatter, it has nothing to do with constructiveness.

Everything you say about Cakewalk bugs is 99% a consequence of some problems in your specific computer, because neither I have this, nor have I heard of such serious problems and in such quantities from anyone in discussions, you can reread the entire correspondence in this topic yourself. Either you installed Cakewalk by Bandlab incorrectly, or your system (Windows) itself is not working correctly, and this affects Cakewalk functionality. I repeat once again: no one (!!!) like problem of the kind you are talking about here has been observed in this program over the past 3-4 years! There are no "misplaced console controls", nothing is closing or doubling arbitrarily in ProChannel, any track if you have all these problems all the time, you need to completely remove all products of Bandlab, thoroughly clean out folders, files and the registry, and then install Cakewalk from zero, I'm sure everything will work normally for you.

Can you give specific examples of "misplaced console controls" after the latest update? And what "other panels" are misplaced and lead to "jumbled mess"? Personally, it is almost impossible for me to understand what exactly you are talking about with such bitterness, because I see a minimal number of console control shifts over the past 2-3 years. Changing the design, color schemes, sometimes the color (tone), width or thickness of frames or background of fields for inserts or sends, but what and where is "misplaced", can you specifically name such elements? In the most recent update, for the first time there was an option to change the height of some segments in the console - volume faders, inserts, sends, before this latest version, this did not exist at all. As far as I remember, since the versions of the old SONAR X... series , not a single (!) control element has been moved to another place in the console, every single one of them is in their previous places, so what kind of "mess" and "misplace" are you so persistently talking about?

Yes, I just checked it myself, and I have the same situation, though not all the time, only from time to time the folders do not open, but get into renaming mode. A strange bug, thank you for paying attention to it, because I have never used this option in all the years of using Cakewalk products, and would not have known about it without your participation. But this is an obvious problem that must be solved!

Everything works fine for me, I specially recorded a screenshot for you, not the slightest anomalies were noticed under any actions and at quite different speeds of double clicking LBM. This leads to the conclusion that the problem is in your specific computer, try to look for it by eliminating different options.

Today I found a few more graphical bugs: when opening the mixer (console), the ProChannel activity icons are not always displayed at the very top under the window frame. But even when they are displayed at the beginning, after any (!) action with the window - changing the size of the window itself, changing the size of sections (fields of volume , inserts, sends) on any channel, these icons at the top disappear, and no actions return them. After closing the mixer and when reopening it, the icons are shown again. In addition, the text inscriptions on the channels go beyond the width of the strips, in the attached video I show all these places with the cursor. This happens with the text when the strips are narrowed. And the problem from old versions of Cakewalk by Bandlab has returned - when a track is extracted from a folder, it ends up on top of this folder, even if it was at the very bottom before, it seemed to me that this problem had already been solved, but today I found it again. Video_29-11-2024_214807.mp4

I am very sorry, but another small graphical bug has been found in Sonar - some audio tracks are not displayed correctly in the sidebar in Piano Roll, I am attaching a screenshot. Sonar interface scaling is set to 100%, Windows system scaling is 100%, closing/opening Piano Roll and Sonar itself does not fix this error. This only happens when displaying long track names, when shortening the names, it is displayed normally.

Hello! I forgot to tell you about another minor graphical bug that appeared in the previous version and remained in the latest one: when opening the window for editing plugins in the "Browser", the "OK" button responds only at the edges, if you move the cursor to the center or over the letters, the button spontaneously loses activity, and when clicking in this area, it does not confirm the previously selected action or change of name, simply closing this window without changes. If it is possible to somehow fix this bug, it would be much more comfortable to work with the "Browser", so that you do not have to look for a place on the button where it will work every time.

Yes, I am attaching the latest minidump of this error, although I tried to do the same thing several times this morning, and the result was the same. And another very unpleasant error was added to this one - I have now opened several projects saved in the previous version of Sonar, and it turns out that when trying to open ProChannel in the "Inspector" on any (!!!) audio and/or instrumental track, the ProChannel field is completely empty, and it is impossible to add any modules in any way, there is not even a menu with a "plus" icon at the top. I tried to create new audio/instrument tracks - the same thing happens, the "Inspector" field is completely empty and inoperable. If you open the mixer (console), then ProChannel is displayed and works fine. Шаблон Сонар '24_11262024_150812.rar