David Pollock

In a large and long orchestral project, I am suddenly finding tracks where notes have been shortened as you see in this screenshot. When it happens, it happens with a number of notes across many measures. And the shortened notes are so short that it is really difficult to be able to grab them and drag them back out. In other words, this is a major pain (and coming near the end of this thing I've worked on for months). I know that it is possible to accidentally select all the notes of a specific note in a track and accidentally change them while changing one of them in another place. But that is not what's happening here since there is suddenly so much of it and it is different notes here and there. I don't see anything in the archive about this. Any ideas? Win10 machine with latest Cakewalk.

I created a new project to further try and narrow down the issue. I created four simple instrument, softsynth tracks without the keyboard connected. It worked fine. Connected the keyboard and played around with it. Worked fine for a while, and then the key change stared. I looked at the events lists for all tracks. Nothing but notes. So the issue is apparently not the recording of such events. But yeah, still the keyboard in some way it seems.

Well, I take that back. I tested again with a new softsynth track instead of just a midi track. This time, it did record wheel AND modulation events. So I guess I'm just screwed with this keyboard?

Good idea. But no, no events were recorded.

I have, and just jiggled everything again to no effect. Thanks.

Certainly, but I don't know what to do about it.

My very basic Nektar Impact GX61 keyboard is causing softsynths to play back a half step higher at random times in multiple projects. Disconnecting and restarting a project makes that issue disappear, and plugging the keyboard back in will eventually result in the problem again. It obviously makes it nearly impossible to work on anything. I know it's a long shot, but I am wondering if there is anything at all I might can do to fix the issue without replacing the keyboard. The back story is that I have a very nice keyboard in storage that I cannot get to right now. So buying another one is something I don't want to do if I can help it. I did a factory reset on the keyboard. Beyond that, I don't know of anything else to try. Any suggestions?

Thanks. Saving as a template and playing it caused the same issue. So the issue is with the file itself according to your suggestion. It's going to be a pain to go the midi file route because I have to figure out how to recall the specific instrument variations for each track, but I'll try. However, I saved the project as a midi file--twice--and when I open it, I get just 16 tracks. The second time I tried that, I selected all tracks thinking perhaps I had 16 selected the first time, but I still got just 16 tracks, and the only track with midi data is the first one. I have no idea what that's about.

I had not, but I just tried on the first track (took about 7 minutes) with no change.

I have a huge (for me) project that I've spent untold hours on that has become corrupted to the point it is useless. I must get it working again so I can finish it or I am going to go in the backyard and eat worms. I've read through this post (https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/topic/55942-whole-cakewalk-is-extremely-buggy-unworkable-cant-take-it-anymore/page/2/&tab=comments#comment-423770) and tried a couple of things as a result as well as other things with no fix. At present, when I open the project, clicking around in it to do anything, CW responds slowly (i.e., clicking on a track doesn't immediately highlight it; it takes a second). But the killer is that once I hit play, CW doesn't respond to anything I do. I have to close it with task manager. So obviously, the project is completely unusable as it is. Previous to this issue, the project became increasingly sluggish--that is, CW responded a second or two later to whatever I clicked on. This became particularly troublesome when drawing envelopes. The project has 45 tracks of midi playing EastWest Play instruments exclusively. It's about 40 minutes long (an orchestral piece). Uses some Sonitus plugins and a couple of Play plugins. Things I've done: Verified that other projects with Play instruments work as expected. So it is clearly and issue with this project. Installed CW on a laptop and opened the project there. It also froze (though I don't have the huge Play instruments on that machine). Created a new project with 45 Play instruments in it and a few measures of notes. No problem with it. Back on my main computer, played the problem project with FX turned off (no change) Deleted individual plugins with no change. Made a copy of the project. It also froze. Deleted the first track where I have done the most work recently (a cello instrument) but no change. Deleted the first 8 tracks, no change. Deleted all the tracks after the first track (so just the first track left), and while CW did not become unresponsive, it was still sluggish. Deleted the last 20 tracks. Plays without becoming unresponsive but still sluggish. So I cannot identify a track or plugin that is the obvious culprit though some seem to contribute to the complete unresponsiveness, but I cannot eliminate the sluggishness that also makes it unworkable. As described before, as a precursor to this problem, drawing envelopes became a nightmare because CW became sluggish--displaying the envelope a second after drawing it and also drawing jagged envelopes instead of the smoother ones I was drawing (and yes, Snap was off). I had thought it was this way for all instruments, but I just realized some of them do not respond this way. Again, they are all Play instruments but perhaps some differences I do not yet understand. I think my system is sufficient to handle the project. See attached info. In addition to that, I have two SSD drives and the Play samples are on the second drive. What else can I try??

Thanks. Strange process. When I do that, it selects the entire project. I have to click the arranger label a second time to select just the section. I also don't understand why selecting everything isn't the default. From my POV, that is what I would usually want to do.

There must be a setting I am not seeing. Moving an arranger section moves everything but the tediously created envelopes--leaving them where they were in the track.

There isn't an option for just deleting envelopes. I can delete track automations, but that doesn't delete the envelopes.

I don't see an options dialogue box.

I forgot about that, thank you. Unfortunately, there is still a phantom envelope. Is there a way to delete all envelopes en masse?

Thanks. Forgot about that. That's helpful, but I still have a mystery envelope.

On several tracks that I have spent hours tweaking, there are envelopes that I cannot identify. The green one you see here that moves a good bit, for example. I have chosen every possible envelope from the automation selector, and none of them activate this envelope. Since there are some odd things happening on this track, I would like to know if this mystery envelope is the problem. Is there some way to identity all envelopes on the track?

I do a lot of such CC controller drawing, so if that's the problem, then Cakewalk is pretty useless because they are necessary. I guess I could experiment with deleting then and see what happens, but if it fixes the problem, I'm just left with Cakewalk being useless.

Ugh. I've done a lot of copying and pasting. If that is it, I'm in trouble.

I have wondered about the GeForce Experience app and what it does for me. Are you saying I should just uninstall it since I don't use it for gaming?

"Sluggish" is not the first word I thought of to describe this, but I am borrowing it from another poster with a similar experience. In a project with a lot of instruments (for me anyway)--40--the interface has grown slower in several disruptive ways such as: when I draw an envelope pattern, it takes a second for the pencil to appear and after drawing another second or two for what I drew to appear; pressing stop or play takes a couple of seconds to happen; and at times, anything I click on may take a long time to activate. A few times, the project kept playing for something like 30 seconds after pressing stop. The performance indicators do not show a problem, and when this large project is playing, it plays fine. So it's hard to imagine my system cannot manage it. I wonder if there is an issue between my graphics card and CW though I have no idea what to check. I think there might also just be some issue with this project. Disabling FX do not fix it. What else can I do? My 64 bit system: Performance while playing back this project: Graphics card:

I think since I have a workaround for now, I'm just going to let it go to remain another mystery of life. Thanks for your help.

I did the test you suggested, and the reverb was still turned on. I don't see how there can be anything on the track if I don't see it in envelopes or the event list. I know that's the logical conclusion, but I cannot find anything.

Good idea, but I don't see that any other channel is sending MIDI.

You would think, but I see nothing but expression control. Here's the beginning.