Keni

3 minutes ago, pwal³ said:

sorry for your loss friend x

Thanks pwal!

This will be more difficult to sink in for me I'm sure.

We played in bands together, built studios, and recorded music together for near 5 decades.

He was a good man!

It’s my sad time to post this info.

An amazing musician and one of my lifelong best friends passed away in Florida yesterday.

He was a long time Cakewalk/Sonar user with many performances credits as a drummer with musicians all over the world.

 I’m too shaken right now to do this justice. Maybe the last website I built for him is still running?

Try http://www.icepackrecords.com and maybe lucky?

There is a pic of him on a page on my website at http://www.dspacer.com on the Artist page. The link on that page appears defunct. Sorry.

Forgive me for not posting better/more comprehensive info. I will do my best to post more.

We were just artwork and paperwork away from releasing his new album

Let’s see if I can post the pic here?

?

28 minutes ago, Grem said:

Keni, for me I had to come to realize that the software (in my case Voice Meter) needed input signal from CW out put. It completely bypassed the audio interface. Then in Voice Meter I could route/record the output from CW it was receiving, and then send to the audio interface or any other software.

To help me with this I had to go into Windows/Settings/Systems/Sound/Output and choose Voice Meter. Had to do the same with the Windows Input (right below Output setting). Once I did that Voice Meter became an option in CW and in Voice Meter CW was able to be heard finally. 

Not sure if this is the case with you or not. But give it a shot. 

Thanks Grem...

I've tried to follow some videos I've found... Most difficult to follow.

I did manage to get signal flowing for a moment using Reastream somehow. I haven't managed to get it back. Lost it while trying to organize and understand the setup. Has to do with using Reastream at both ends but I can't get Reastream to show in OBS' vst list. I'm gonna try manually copying the dll to the steinberg folder?

7 minutes ago, Grem said:

We discuss all kinds of BS topics around here, this can just be considered more.... or just a different topic!! LOL!! JK

 

Keni, do you have and option to select an OBS input in CW Prefernces/Devices/Output Drivers?

If yes to the above is there a way to select CW as an input in OBS. Not familiar with that software at all.

I know your not a noob, you been around the block many times. But last year I was having a hard time getting Voice Meter Banana/Potato to work with CW. It was all user error in the end.

 

Thanks Grem!

I don’t see any available OBS Inputs/Outputs within Preferences.

In OBS I do find an area that allows me to select my available sources/destinations as it does in Cake.

Meaning.

I have 18 i/o

8 are pairs including preamps and such from my Audiobox 1828

8 are ADAT which connect to my Soundcsape hardware when needed

2 are SPDIF

Im guessing it’s understanding the routing so that OBS is receiving the correct audio path. I’m currently blindly experimenting.

2 minutes ago, craigb said:

C'mon Keni!  You know that not being cool hasn't stopped any of us from talking about whatever we want down here! ?

Although I have OBS, I haven't used it in the manner you're trying yet.  It's pretty easy to use though!  I'd do the usual Google searches to see what you can find.

Thanks Craig...

Exactly as I have been. I’m usually good with new softwares quickly if they’re reasonably designed.

I haven’t yet found satisfactory info but also barely begun.

I can do a screen video capture and it includes the system mic by default but I’ve been unable to get it to read my audio interface even when I found and selected them as my audio source.

I'm hoping soneone can give me a simple expkanation and save me the video hunt? ?

Please tell me if I should cease.

I just added OBS studio to my DAW to use for video capture of screen situations as it should be a major step up from LiCap which I had been using.

I've got it installed and working, but nervous as I didn't have a streaming site to select and it got an incomplete registration... but appears to be working fine for my current needs

With another bit of guidance I downloaded and installed the OBS ASIO driver...

I've managed to do screen captures a bit ragedly but still unable to get it to hear Cake's ASIO output. I've tried many selections. Obviously none correct or something else I have yet to learn?

Can anyone offer any guidance on this setup/situation to help me understand the workings?

Thanks!

Yeah!

That was easy this time.

I finally got someone both comfortable enough with pc workings and with a decent hotspot connection and the job was fixed in a flash!

Connected pc to hotspot

Downloaded and ran the latest EA

CbB activated immediately and he's back in the groove!

Thanks to all for the pointers and thoughts!

1 hour ago, John Vere said:

So you didn’t read the other 3 threads on the topic that right now are at the top?   This is all getting a bit ridiculous ?

Sorry, I didn’t see them as my priorities are currently elsewhere. I’m trying to solve this issue for a non-tech, no internet friend across the country from me.

I will look for them now.

Thanks.

50 minutes ago, gustabo said:

Install the Early Access release
 

 

Thanks again Gustabo...

Nice to have the Sonar ad gone!

I'll have to see about getting someone in Florida to do the update for my friend. Nice to see the offline activation finally returned. That may help too...

I guess changes made to impliment this coming update may be the cause of his problem.... somehow?

I should have tried opening CbB before running the update to see if the same was true on my system as his? Too late now!

Wait! I just remembered I have it installed on my older machine as well.... off to look!

Nope... All was well with my other CbB install. I have updated that to the EA as well... So I'm still trying to understand what's going on with my friend's machine. Half open and useless for him at the moment...

4 minutes ago, gustabo said:

Install the Early Access release
 

 

Thanks... I didn't even know there is one.

My problem (as mentioned in OP is that my friend is both incapable of doing such and doesn't have internet (not even a smart phone) so it becomes involved gettting someone to visit him and use a hotspot to handle his internet needs. I will consider it, but it has been working fine until today, so I don't think it's the build, but I will download the EA for myself to check it out anyway. Thanks for the heads up.

Maybe something changed behind the scenes on the server side? Still shouldn't affect the opening of the program.

Has anyone run into this?

I have a friend who is stuck with this problem. I've had him close it using Task Manager and re-boot as well but when he opens CbB it only opens covering part of the screen and is frozen with the Sonar ad and nothing working.

The only thing I can think to do would be to re-install CbB but that's very difficult in this situation as my friend is both pc UNsaavy and has no internet. I would go over, but he's in Florida and I'm in California. My other friend local to him in Florida who has been handling his machine and updates is in the hospital so he can't help.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated...

Thanks!

5 minutes ago, kinen_papico said:

I was not planning on updating to 1.2. But, when I bought Mariana, it was tied to the hardware, so it became pointless to cling to the iLok, so I gave up and went for 1.2.

Here's hoping that one day soon, someone will come up with better means of handling these issues. The current paradigm is a mess!

2 hours ago, TheSteven said:

Is that even an issue? 
Last I checked I've got iLok plugins working from companies that died years ago.
Could just be that company no longer has access to new iLok registration codes.  
Details would be in the developers iLok licensing agreement but I have neither the desire or patience to dig it up and read it.  
 

That sounds fine by me! I plan on leaving it until it  (or I) dies! ?

So I guess that's a benefit of the iLok... It maintains the license beyond the manufacturer once in place... Good to know (believe?)

52 minutes ago, Bajan Blue said:

Wish I had read this post first?

Installed the update 1.2 - none of the plug ins would load after installation, with an error notice of not installed properly.

Thought download might have corrupted, so went back to the Moog site and saw there was an update to 1.22

Downloaded this, installed - that didn't work either.

So I uninstalled all the plug ins, reloaded 1.07

Now all back working again, although you do get the notice when you open them, that there is an update available - I would not load that update

Nigel

 

Thanks for confirming my suspicion... I was fortunate that being recently burned, I was not ready to chance something working fine for potential problems and avoided the update.

Happily still working but for how long until they stop paying the license fee for the iLok version???

8 minutes ago, shane said:

Update after a few weeks of VST2 vs. VST3: Seems like VST3 versions are ok AS LONG AS YOU DON'T AUTOMATE PARAMETERS.

With this automation, dropouts and Late Buffers are constant. 

Freezing the audio cures the issue(s)

Interesting observation, but often for me I don't know if I'm going to need automation until long after adding the effect

18 minutes ago, Bristol_Jonesey said:

If all else fails, I'd try to re-create the project using your existing audio & midi clips.

Big ouch!

Luckily not necessary. Though it was painful while I was working, I didn't report this until after I'm essentially finished with my MIDI work on this song other than any necessary tweaks at final mix. So I really don't "need" to solve this to work, only to understand why it's happenning and how I might avoid it happening again...

So I may do a quickie version of this idea starting a new project (empty) importing all tracks as frozen audio except loading a new instance of the VSampler I've been using for the testing and then copy the MIDI track for that one (after removing all the meter change info)

2 hours ago, David Baay said:

Try toggling the audio engine off by the button in the transport module. If the problem persists, it's not load-related. With all the other tracks frozen, it shouldn't be RAM-related, either. I would sooner suspect  some issue with the interoperability of the CW with your video driver. Have you added/updated any hardware/software/firmware/drivers  around the time this happened? If it's only this one project, try to identify anything unusual about it, and maybe start stripping down a copy of it.

Thanks for the confirmation David. Exactly my thinking.

I took it all the way down to only the single plugin in a quick test and it is still problematic.

Next going to remove all meter changes, save, reopen

then remove all other tracks as well. Repeat close open

I'll report asap

5 hours ago, Bristol_Jonesey said:

Sure, just goto View > Meter/Key

But I doubt this is the cause of yout problem

Just tried a quick test deleting the meter changes without saving etc. No diff there but I'll do a full test in a while when I'm not multi-tasking others' problems simultaneously...

5 hours ago, Bristol_Jonesey said:

Sure, just goto View > Meter/Key

But I doubt this is the cause of yout problem

We will see some time today.

Thanks for the pointer. I'm surprised I didn'[t think to look there but that's exactly what I was looking for. I remember it but couldn't remember where!

I'll review it as well as test removing all the meter changes and report back...

33 minutes ago, Bristol_Jonesey said:

Do a "save as" to a new location. Make sure "copy audio with project" is checked

Same problem? Ok, delete all your meter/key changes and report back

will try asap... something came up requiring my attention

1 hour ago, David Baay said:

I'm pretty sure GUI Throttle Mode (a.k.a. CPU Conservation Mode) activated by Pause is not the issue here. It's only active during playback, reducing UI updates (mainly meters, Now counter and Now cursor motion) to approximately once per second. If you were to try moving notes in the PRV during playback (which I'm guessing is not the case here), there would be that slight delay in the UI update but not "many seconds of the screen slowly flashing and re-adjusting itself trying to get to it's goal" as described.

 

Thanks David...

I don't think so either. Especially seeing that so far it's impossible to find the pause key on my system due to mac/pc differences as well as keyboard brand unusualness..

I'm more convinced than ever that it's related to the meter changes as I can see how the PRV would need to interpret such.

I removed all tracks except for the vsampler midi/audio tracks and bypassed all remaining fx.... The problem still persists.

In none of my other project using this VSampler plugin with the same bass loaded including projects with nearly identical instrumentation brands/models

If this is the case I can easily live with it for now as I've already weathered the tedious editing for this song and all that remains are vocals with a guitar solo.... No more midi work planned and I rarely do such meter mapping... ?

1 hour ago, John Vere said:

At the top of the track inspector is where you find the different views for it like pro channel, arranger and the tempo. It’s a metronome icon 

Thanks, but no. That's the tempo track and displays tempo changes. These are not tempo changes. The tempo remains the same but the song changes from 3/4 to 4/4 and even to 1/4 3 times! ?

It's the number of beats in a measure...

4 hours ago, Bristol_Jonesey said:

Ok, let's try a different approach.

What happens if you bypass all Fx in the control bar?

Thanks Jonesey...

I'll try that in a little while. Just finished breakfast.

i did try removing all tracks except the superior drummer and the vsampler used in all this.

Problem still the same after save/close/reopen...

A thought just came to me though. One possibly very significant item.

This song has a number of meter changes! Maybe that or the crazy editing I did to figure out and map thr meter changes as the song evolved. Good possibility that either having such a map, or the sloppy way it was implemented? That’s really sounding plausible now?

Maybe I’m not remembering, but is there any place to see an overview of the meter changes?

55 minutes ago, OutrageProductions said:

I'm not knocking it. Bootcamp works fairly well most of the time. I spent 22 years from Apple System 1 (1984) through Mac OS 9 running a large Macintosh network in studios. For personal reasons (and I got my MSEE using WinTel machines) I will never touch an Apple product again. 

Silly questions; have you cold booted the machine?

Does it happen on every project? 

Single monitor?

I getcha. I’m not a mac fan either though as a computer tech I’ve done support/repairs/installs fir a few companies including supporting pg&e and pac bell. So I had to be fluent in each.

But I was gifted these powerhouse (each of them cost my friend over $10k new) it was impossible to refuse.

 I have become far below poverty level (government assessment) these days. Made it a really easy decision. I couldn’t come close to this power myself. Only downside on the trashcan is the lack of multi-drive internal setup, so I do occasionally feel the drag running anything from the USB3 external. The thunderbolt 2 drives are a smidgen better, hut nothing to write home about. Trashcan... very appropriate for more than it’s appearance as they created a dead end flagship in this machine. I love the prior dual xeon 6 core processors @3.06 in a normal mac pro tower with 4 internal ssd's... A screamer but had me trapoed at win8.1 which I didn’t mind until I couldn’t get new software running that required win10.

Now I’m trapped at win10! ?

3 minutes ago, OutrageProductions said:

Well, if you're running CbB in a VM/OS on a Mac, I can't help you.

Thanks for trying... I've been doing this for a couple of machines dating back to the Sonar days and though everyone always is shy thinking it has issues due to this, I haven't discovered any one difference. Bootcamp supplies the DOS boot table and it's running on intel... When it's open as windows (the only way I use it) it is a windows machine... Period... Now the keyboard? That's always been a bit of a pain...