Terry Kelley

I have a rock.

I still have my Radio Shack and Sansui 6 track.

I was thinking about the OP again.
 

If Bandlab offered a perpetual license for CbB what sales might they lose?

I guess some Sonar renters could bail and go back to CbB but I wonder if it might bring in the people that won’t rent either way. The new Sonar GUI is functional but I would consider CbB over Sonar.  And perpetual for me must include never deactivating and never calling home and stopping if it can’t.

Maybe there are a few incremental bucks to be had. 

Perpetual licenses were never an option for Bandlab financially. They need a continuous revenue stream.  So I don’t consider this a “mistake” as much as an unfortunate necessity given the baggage of the past.

I will be curious to see where the GUI finally lands once they get it completed. Getting close I think.

Try the Munt MT32.

I don’t like the seam of dual monitors but the ultra wide’s just aren’t worth the price to get rid of it. A 60” UW would be $2kUS+.

People think boosted high end, cut low end, 50db dynamic range and at best 50db s/n ratio followed by cut in high end and boosted low end  (aka vinyl) sounds good. It’s a terrible medium but many like what it does and the things necessary to cram it on plastic.  A good cassette is better than that. But we were at the limit of what we could do. Tape is good but it has its own limits. Hello digital.

A DAW might very well add some artifacts or character to audio but people will either like it or not. I’ve done my own tests on a couple of DAWs and can’t measure a difference but maybe just the visual look of the DAW (e.g. Harrison) has a psycho-acoustic effect.  

But at some point wondering is a time sink. Lord I love to listen to the discussions but I can’t give anyone any facts. I’ve done a lot of high fidelity loudspeaker designs but when asked I say “Buy what you like.” 

Nothing else matters.
 

I give up.

Yes they all sound different but only the discriminating mind can tell. Especially with beer.

I suspect Meng can afford it. 

TTS isn’t stable anymore and hasn't been for years. And it won’t be fixed. 

If you add it early in a project you have a fighting chance it will be ok, but at some point it will go south. Why has been speculated for years but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s no longer reliable and it will never be fixed. 

Your best bet is to switch to the various alternatives that give the same sounds like Munt MT-32 and others.

The TTS era has ended … about 10 years ago.

I’m on a pair of 27’s and have considered going to a pair of 32’s or a single 50” ultra-wide. Anything bigger would be a space challenge. 

I think the developers will ultimately come up with customization tools within the limit of vector graphics. That feature just needs to be pushed back while they focus on functionality.

Give them some time.

Ok. I was just answering the OPs thread title. 

You can rent it, but you can not buy it.

It’s like when the food take-out place turns the cashier display towards you so you can enter a tip.

No.

I never linked them and still get this login request. I just open a second tab, login and it doesn't ask for Google. I close the first tab and move on.

With all due respect, the items you get if you subscribe  aren’t all that big of a deal. A few are nice additions but don’t stand out as must-haves. Are those supposed make a person want to upgrade?

It doesn’t make sense to me. What am I missing? 

Think we will start seeing ads?

AI has the ability to be a fancier Band in a Box. As said, generating ideas is it's strength, but I am not going to use it as the final and complete track. I just don't see myself feeling like I truly accomplished anything. I've gotten better over the years but as a one man-band (occasionally two) I'm restricted in just about every aspect of music making.

I am also not a good singer. I can keep in tune but there is nothing especially interesting about my voice. I come off monotone no matter the dynamics of the singing. That's where I would certainly get someone that is interesting to sing it. But just generate it all via AI? It's not what I want. I prefer to keep working to get better. The journey is part of the appeal.

I can also see the fancy results from AI actually being depression since I could never accomplish that. Now a band playing and improving one of my songs? That would be very pleasing.

Still Bapu's creation is catchy!

My guess it times out, calls home and re-ups unless you finally pay and then it just calls home periodically to make sure it's still being paid.

I have no issue with AI music as long as people don’t claim they created it. I’m not talking about AI tools for fixing stuff like noise or distortion. Those will be useful. Even AI background vocals could be ok.

But having an idea and actually turning that idea into something by playing instruments will always matter to me versus asking software to do it all for you.

Unfair? Many things in life are unfair. Like poisoning the AI databases.

On 6/22/2025 at 9:23 AM, Bristol_Jonesey said:

This is what a lot of people don't get. I won't name names, but we all know who they are.

Oh name names. I can spell.

If people start dropping back from the subscription to free, that’s not good. There must be a plan.

Too be fair there were/are singers that can't sing live what they sang in the studio originally. Ignore the "night after night" aspect.  Night after night does take a toll even with training and care. 

The vocal gymnastics in the studio are great but when live deviates too much, well, no ... I would rather they thought about if they could sing it live regardless of singing it night after night. 

I love Led Zepplin but I never saw them live where Robert Plant was even remotely close to the record even in his twenties (or remember the correct lyrics.)

6 hours ago, Bristol_Jonesey said:

This is what a lot of people don't get. I won't name names, but we all know who they are.

Yeah. 

Starship, I wasn't directing an insult at you. If you believe that I offer my apologize.  I was only critiquing the new offering and pondering the reasons.