MisterGreen

44 minutes ago, mettelus said:

Another quick comment with this guy... computers default to "Automatic Network Discovery" being enabled when loaded, so check networking options and shut that off for both Private and Public Networks. What that does is ping to find new networks like every 3-4 seconds and is a high priority task. Even from a simple security standpoint, you don't want your computer trying to reach out and connect to everything it can find on its own (always manually connect devices). That particular setting has historically been the highest latency culprit over the years.

Thanks. It was on for Private Networks. Just turned it off.

I figured it out. In Power Options, I increased the Processor performance core parking min cores from 4% to 100%. No more LatencyMon spikes and no glitching in Cakewalk.

On 3/9/2025 at 12:52 PM, Simeon Amburgey said:

I had a similar issue with connecting my keyboard to USB and also an outboard interface where I would hear a lot of strange noise and such. At first, I tried the ferrite cores around some of the audio and USB cables.

My solution was to use a USB ground isolator and that took care of the issue right away. Here are a few on Amazon;
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=usb+ground+loop+isolator&crid=2CPDVH0YI7JIX&sprefix=USB+ground%2Caps%2C120&ref=nb_sb_ss_mvt-t9-ranker_1_10

Joyfully yours,
Simeon

Problem solved. I picked up an isolator and the noise is gone. Dead silent. Thanks for the suggestion!

On 2/28/2025 at 12:27 PM, Wookiee said:

Try a different USB cable, or even try ferrite beads.

Reporting back that this was unsuccessful.

Since firing up the new build, I have been experiencing occasional glitches during playback. So, the first thing I did was to download and run LatencyMon. I let it run for a while and it gave me this conclusion:

Your system appears to be having trouble handling real-time audio and other tasks. You are likely to experience buffer underruns appearing as drop outs, clicks or pops. One problem may be related to power management, disable CPU throttling settings in Control Panel and BIOS setup. Check for BIOS updates.

The first thing I did was to optimize the power settings to High Performance, turned off power throttling in the registry, and disabled C States in the BIOS (which was also updated). Also turned off WiFi and Real Time Scanning.

After all that, I'm still getting the same message. Below is the report.

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CONCLUSION
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Your system appears to be having trouble handling real-time audio and other tasks. You are likely to experience buffer underruns appearing as drop outs, clicks or pops. One problem may be related to power management, disable CPU throttling settings in Control Panel and BIOS setup. Check for BIOS updates.
LatencyMon has been analyzing your system for  0:10:45  (h:mm:ss) on all processors.

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
SYSTEM INFORMATION
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Computer name:                                        STUDIO-PC-2025
OS version:                                           Windows 11, 10.0, version 2009, build: 22631 (x64)
Hardware:                                             System Product Name, ASUS
BIOS:                                                 1805
CPU:                                                  GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-14700K
Logical processors:                                   28
Processor groups:                                     1
Processor group size:                                 28
RAM:                                                  32517 MB total

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CPU SPEED
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Reported CPU speed (WMI):                             340 MHz
Reported CPU speed (registry):                        3418 MHz

Note: reported execution times may be calculated based on a fixed reported CPU speed. Disable variable speed settings like Intel Speed Step and AMD Cool N Quiet in the BIOS setup for more accurate results.

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MEASURED INTERRUPT TO USER PROCESS LATENCIES
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The interrupt to process latency reflects the measured interval that a usermode process needed to respond to a hardware request from the moment the interrupt service routine started execution. This includes the scheduling and execution of a DPC routine, the signaling of an event and the waking up of a usermode thread from an idle wait state in response to that event.

Highest measured interrupt to process latency (µs):   15081.10
Average measured interrupt to process latency (µs):   10.643792

Highest measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs):       117.10
Average measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs):       3.570108

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
 REPORTED ISRs
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Interrupt service routines are routines installed by the OS and device drivers that execute in response to a hardware interrupt signal.

Highest ISR routine execution time (µs):              26.426858
Driver with highest ISR routine execution time:       Wdf01000.sys - Kernel Mode Driver Framework Runtime, Microsoft Corporation

Highest reported total ISR routine time (%):          0.000090
Driver with highest ISR total time:                   Wdf01000.sys - Kernel Mode Driver Framework Runtime, Microsoft Corporation

Total time spent in ISRs (%)                          0.000090

ISR count (execution time <250 µs):                   9687
ISR count (execution time 250-500 µs):                0
ISR count (execution time 500-1000 µs):               0
ISR count (execution time 1000-2000 µs):              0
ISR count (execution time 2000-4000 µs):              0
ISR count (execution time >=4000 µs):                 0

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
REPORTED DPCs
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DPC routines are part of the interrupt servicing dispatch mechanism and disable the possibility for a process to utilize the CPU while it is interrupted until the DPC has finished execution.

Highest DPC routine execution time (µs):              785.365126
Driver with highest DPC routine execution time:       ntoskrnl.exe - NT Kernel & System, Microsoft Corporation

Highest reported total DPC routine time (%):          0.001612
Driver with highest DPC total execution time:         ntoskrnl.exe - NT Kernel & System, Microsoft Corporation

Total time spent in DPCs (%)                          0.007140

DPC count (execution time <250 µs):                   105099
DPC count (execution time 250-500 µs):                0
DPC count (execution time 500-10000 µs):              3
DPC count (execution time 1000-2000 µs):              0
DPC count (execution time 2000-4000 µs):              0
DPC count (execution time >=4000 µs):                 0

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
 REPORTED HARD PAGEFAULTS
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Hard pagefaults are events that get triggered by making use of virtual memory that is not resident in RAM but backed by a memory mapped file on disk. The process of resolving the hard pagefault requires reading in the memory from disk while the process is interrupted and blocked from execution.

NOTE: some processes were hit by hard pagefaults. If these were programs producing audio, they are likely to interrupt the audio stream resulting in dropouts, clicks and pops. Check the Processes tab to see which programs were hit.

Process with highest pagefault count:                 ntkdaemon.exe

Total number of hard pagefaults                       143
Hard pagefault count of hardest hit process:          46
Number of processes hit:                              9

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
 PER CPU DATA
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CPU 0 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       15.525264
CPU 0 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 0 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 0 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 0 DPC highest execution time (µs):                155.760679
CPU 0 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.324680
CPU 0 DPC count:                                      31155
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CPU 1 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       7.900827
CPU 1 ISR highest execution time (µs):                14.334406
CPU 1 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.000259
CPU 1 ISR count:                                      368
CPU 1 DPC highest execution time (µs):                40.772967
CPU 1 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.002553
CPU 1 DPC count:                                      370
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CPU 2 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       7.479996
CPU 2 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 2 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 2 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 2 DPC highest execution time (µs):                0.529842
CPU 2 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.000001
CPU 2 DPC count:                                      1
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CPU 3 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       7.709990
CPU 3 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 3 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 3 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 3 DPC highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 3 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 3 DPC count:                                      0
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CPU 4 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       6.204006
CPU 4 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 4 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 4 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 4 DPC highest execution time (µs):                46.543008
CPU 4 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.000079
CPU 4 DPC count:                                      3
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CPU 5 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       6.355372
CPU 5 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 5 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 5 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 5 DPC highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 5 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 5 DPC count:                                      0
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CPU 6 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       5.990116
CPU 6 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 6 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 6 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 6 DPC highest execution time (µs):                21.518139
CPU 6 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.000143
CPU 6 DPC count:                                      19
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CPU 7 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       6.099188
CPU 7 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 7 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 7 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 7 DPC highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 7 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 7 DPC count:                                      0
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CPU 8 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       5.873703
CPU 8 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 8 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 8 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 8 DPC highest execution time (µs):                485.458163
CPU 8 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.310664
CPU 8 DPC count:                                      22011
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CPU 9 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       5.638968
CPU 9 ISR highest execution time (µs):                20.431831
CPU 9 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.009190
CPU 9 ISR count:                                      4871
CPU 9 DPC highest execution time (µs):                785.365126
CPU 9 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.207967
CPU 9 DPC count:                                      17532
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CPU 10 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       4.714694
CPU 10 ISR highest execution time (µs):                26.426858
CPU 10 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.006724
CPU 10 ISR count:                                      4448
CPU 10 DPC highest execution time (µs):                88.218841
CPU 10 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.195045
CPU 10 DPC count:                                      16254
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CPU 11 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       5.299140
CPU 11 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 11 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 11 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 11 DPC highest execution time (µs):                97.576068
CPU 11 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.245497
CPU 11 DPC count:                                      17497
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CPU 12 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       4.453105
CPU 12 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 12 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 12 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 12 DPC highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 12 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 12 DPC count:                                      0
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CPU 13 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       4.453582
CPU 13 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 13 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 13 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 13 DPC highest execution time (µs):                54.127853
CPU 13 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.000891
CPU 13 DPC count:                                      93
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CPU 14 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       4.457301
CPU 14 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 14 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 14 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 14 DPC highest execution time (µs):                51.652428
CPU 14 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.000174
CPU 14 DPC count:                                      12
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CPU 15 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       4.452313
CPU 15 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 15 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 15 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 15 DPC highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 15 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 15 DPC count:                                      0
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CPU 16 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       3.873935
CPU 16 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 16 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 16 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 16 DPC highest execution time (µs):                32.103277
CPU 16 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.000045
CPU 16 DPC count:                                      2
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CPU 17 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       3.884205
CPU 17 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 17 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 17 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 17 DPC highest execution time (µs):                19.858689
CPU 17 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.000037
CPU 17 DPC count:                                      2
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CPU 18 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       3.856382
CPU 18 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 18 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 18 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 18 DPC highest execution time (µs):                33.729959
CPU 18 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.000034
CPU 18 DPC count:                                      1
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CPU 19 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       3.859741
CPU 19 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 19 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 19 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 19 DPC highest execution time (µs):                15.010240
CPU 19 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.000032
CPU 19 DPC count:                                      3
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CPU 20 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       4.263072
CPU 20 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 20 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 20 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 20 DPC highest execution time (µs):                23.089233
CPU 20 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.000051
CPU 20 DPC count:                                      3
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CPU 21 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       4.415399
CPU 21 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 21 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 21 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 21 DPC highest execution time (µs):                36.813341
CPU 21 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.000144
CPU 21 DPC count:                                      8
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CPU 22 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       4.347459
CPU 22 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 22 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 22 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 22 DPC highest execution time (µs):                33.441779
CPU 22 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.000332
CPU 22 DPC count:                                      21
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CPU 23 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       4.317399
CPU 23 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 23 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 23 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 23 DPC highest execution time (µs):                37.599181
CPU 23 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.000288
CPU 23 DPC count:                                      18
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CPU 24 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       3.881757
CPU 24 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 24 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 24 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 24 DPC highest execution time (µs):                33.968110
CPU 24 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.000212
CPU 24 DPC count:                                      13
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CPU 25 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       3.987321
CPU 25 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 25 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 25 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 25 DPC highest execution time (µs):                80.762434
CPU 25 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.000597
CPU 25 DPC count:                                      37
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CPU 26 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       3.973771
CPU 26 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 26 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 26 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 26 DPC highest execution time (µs):                25.794032
CPU 26 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.000235
CPU 26 DPC count:                                      18
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
CPU 27 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       3.917372
CPU 27 ISR highest execution time (µs):                0.0
CPU 27 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.0
CPU 27 ISR count:                                      0
CPU 27 DPC highest execution time (µs):                41.059977
CPU 27 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.000533
CPU 27 DPC count:                                      29
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10 minutes ago, Jim Roseberry said:

That sounds like USB related noise (from a poor quality USB cable).

 

Another potential source of noise... is a WiFi Router.

If you've ever played live using wireless mic or wireless in-ear-monitors, you've almost surely encountered Router noise.

It's very rhythmic/consistent.

I've had unshielded guitars (even from the likes of Gibson Custom) that picked up Router noise (my Router is close to my studio desk).

I now have a metal shield in front of my Router (half-baked Faraday Cage).  It cuts down greatly on devices picking up the noise.

Thanks for the info, Jim. I replaced the OEM interface cable with a shorter Anker cable and it's still there. Next will be to get some ferrite beads. I had also disconnected the WiFi antenna from the mobo and it's still there.

I captured the noise, just for reference.

18 hours ago, HIBI said:

This may be off the mark, but if you have a wireless mouse that uses a USB dongle type receiver, this could be the cause. In that case, try moving the USB receiver to a port a little further away (such as the front port).

Both mouse and keyboard are wired. Unplugged them both as a test. Sound is still there. Also, tried a different USB-C cable, tried different speaker cables, tried relocating the interface, and unplugged the WiFi antenna and put the PC in airplane mode. No luck.

Also, the sound disappears when the PC is shut down.

Thanks Jim (and others) for the reply. To your points, Jim: Yes, everything is powered by a single outlet. My speakers and monitor are plugged into a Furman conditioner which is plugged in to a UPS. The PC is also plugged into the UPS. All cables are balanced. I'm going to get shorter cables for my HS-50s (which are the only speakers making the noise). Currently 6-foot but can easily use 3-foot. I'm also getting a new, shorter USB-C cable for the interface.

I did unplug both pair of speakers from the interface and no noise can be heard through the headphones. So, it appears to be isolated to the HS-50s.

Also, I am not using the external power supply on the interface.

I'll keep you posted if find the culprit.

4 minutes ago, OutrageProductions said:

You've got electromagnetic field issues which are common in consumer grade audio electronics. Make sure that power & audio/data  cables are not physically laid in parallel, move things around to minimize noise, and use a USB cable with a ferrite choke on it.

Regarding that, none of the cables have moved and this wasn't present with my old PC.

I just got a new interface for my new build and I'm noticing a faint buzz or static coming out of my HS-50's (but strangely, not from my Event TR8's). It gets worse when I move my mouse around. Whether the interface is on or off, it's there. I've isolated it to the USB-C connection. When I unplug the cable, the noise goes away. I've tried 3 different USB-C connections on the computer and even one of the Type A connections with an adapter, with no luck. Also tried unplugging the display power and moving one of the HS-50's away from the computer. Has anyone ever experienced this?

Also, you don't hear it through the headphone outputs; only the speakers.

Thanks, guys. I thought the one I was trying was the newest; it was not.

On 12/21/2018 at 11:09 AM, scook said:

Here is an image of my tuncury light green theme. It may be found on my google page along with a variety of CbB related materials and utilities.

 

edit: updated for 2020.04

edit: updated for 2021.01

edit: updated for 2021.04

edit: updated for 2021.04 Update 1

edit: updated for 2021.12

This is my favorite theme. Did you ever update it for 2024.12?

On 2/5/2025 at 5:15 PM, Starship Krupa said:

I'm still using my Pro 40 on Windows 10 and it works a treat. I haven't tried it with my Windows 11 test system, but maybe I should.

I know of no inherent reason that Firewire wouldn't work in Windows 11.

Are you considering installing Windows 10 instead of 11 in order to be able to keep using your Pro 40? Or are you weighing the possibility of buying a newer USB interface?

If the day ever comes that my Pro 40's (I have two of them) stop working with Windows, I hope to still be able to use their 8 inputs via ADAT connection to a newer interface.

I'm building a new Windows 11 PC and if the Pro 40 is not compatible, then a new USB interface is what I'll have to get.

50 minutes ago, msmcleod said:

It's worth noting that unlike CbB, Sonar is DPI aware.

I'm running Sonar with my CPU's integrated graphics, however my two displays are 1080P @ 100%.

If you've got a 4K display, Sonar will be drawing 4 x the amount of graphics.  In this scenario, having a dedicated GPU may make sense - especially if you've got multiple 4K displays.

Not to say that your integrated graphics won't be able to cope - it may be fine... but if you are running 4K displays, bear this in mind.

Good to know. Thanks!

43 minutes ago, Chaps said:

Video card prices are insane. The Gigabyte Geforce GTX 1050 Ti I bought four years ago for $189.42 is now selling for $299.99.

You're not kidding. Hence my question. I'd rather not add 200-300 dollars to my build unless absolutely necessary.

I'm starting a new build and research tell me that I might not be able to use my Focusrite Saffire Pro 40. I've read in various places that firewire may or may not work with Windows 11. Some say it works using legacy drivers, others say it doesn't. Does anyone have any experience with firewire audio interfaces on Windows 11?

13 hours ago, Terry Kelley said:

It wouldn't surprise me if some slower i3 or i5 processors might benefit some. My earlier i7-4790 didn't need the card. The VSTs themselves did a fine job of grinding that processor into the ground. Arturia's Augmented anything was usually the cause.  It wasn't the graphics load.

Anywho, no harm with a card. Have at it. It's doesn't need to be an expensive card.

The cheapest I could find was a PNY for $175. I guess that's cheap considering cards these days can go for over $1K. Regardless, it's bumping up my build price.

Thanks again for the additional replies. I'm going to proceed the build without a dedicated GPU for now and add one if needed.

Thanks for the confirmation, guys!

I haven’t seen any minimum requirements regarding graphics. Does Sonar require a dedicated GPU or would the integrated graphics on the CPU suffice? The i7-14700 has Intel UHD Graphics 770. 

16 hours ago, Chaps said:

That looks like a great choice, especially if you want to use liquid cooling. It  has three M2 slots so I would fill those up if it were me and I had the funds, because of their superior data transfer speed. I would also stay with solid state and make my fourth drive a 2.5" SSD.

Looks like the Z790-A is a better choice. It's cheaper and has 4 M.2 slots. Performance-wise it looks identical.

11 hours ago, Chaps said:

That looks like a great choice, especially if you want to use liquid cooling. It  has three M2 slots so I would fill those up if it were me and I had the funds, because of their superior data transfer speed. I would also stay with solid state and make my fourth drive a 2.5" SSD.

Thanks. Speaking of liquid cooling, are those overkill for a non-tweaked audio PC? I've always used the fan type and never had a problem with temps.

22 minutes ago, Chaps said:

One thing to consider is if the MB has a USB C connector for the front panel on the case. My ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming does not have one so I have a USB C port  on my cases front panel that I can't use unless I buy an adapter of some kind.

Noted. Thanks, Chaps. I think I've narrowed the search down to the ASUS Prime Z790-P. Now I'm just researching drive options. Ultimately, I want it to accommodate 4 (system, audio, instruments, samples).

So, nothing to avoid when it comes to motherboards? It's been a while since I spec'ed parts and I'm a bit confused by all these "gaming" motherboards.