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I don't entirely agree with you there, because FL Studio has further developed precisely this type of remote control, and it's very popular worldwide, especially in the EDM world. Sonar Synthrack has a feature (Assig Controls) where you can open a plugin or softsynth and then record the movements of its switches and knobs, for example, 25 consecutive movements. All the VST parameters are then assigned to them in Synthrack (as controls). This is brilliant, but unfortunately, you can only display a limited number of these assignments; if there are more than 15 or 20... (Show/Hide Assigned Controls)

When it looked like Cakewalk was going under (in 2018/19?), I got FL Studio. It wasn't easy to find my way around. I've been tinkering with Cakewalk since 1996 and have always remained loyal to this DAW, if only because I liked its look. Cakewalk offers many good options, even if it's showing its age at times. I especially like the keybind editor and the ability to create and assign my own shortcuts. After a heavy, incurable cancer diagnosis in 2018, I immersed myself once again in the world of DAWs because I desperately wanted to learn about EDM ((especially Melodic Dubstep, Future Garage und Psytrance Music) howto and its techniques, and even create it myself. Currently, I'm focusing intensively on Remote Control.

Hey Wookie, I'm tinkering with this so much right now that I sometimes get things mixed up and everything gets a bit blurry. Sorry for the confusion, but I see things more clearly now. It's great that so many people responded and took the time to help me.

You're right. The sonar remote control window can actually process 119 x 16 = 1904 commands. 119 CCs across 16 channels. That should be enough! If you also had the 16 ports, it would be a spectacular 30,464, and nobody would ever need that many... 🫣 Unfortunately, you can't save the project-specific assignments to a transferable preset.

Okay, so here I'm controlling a Z3TA+2 with about 240 CCs (without MIDI Learn) About the SetUp: best watch from minute 8:00 onwards.

As for my whole life, Eckhart Tolle couldn't have put it better. I'm sorry, but you're right, I've had ADHD my whole life. It's a bit complicated. Thanks anyway.😇

Based on my intuition, without understanding the programming aspect, it should be the case that when Echo is off, no more MIDI data is active from the MIDI device. I don't know if that's even technically possible...? Just to clarify again: The whole problem only becomes apparent with extensive remote control projects. For example, if you start triggering two different plugins with two hardware MIDI controllers, the Sonar remote control function can't distinguish between ports, so overlaps occur very quickly, and you suddenly control two things with a single command. Meticulous lists have to be kept to prevent this. If it were possible to simply receive data from only one active (MIDI data-sending) device, it would be relatively easy to prevent.

You can open multiple instances at once and create a kind of Pre-Filtering, before the data even reaches Sonar. For example, you could configure it so that only the note on/off data from a specific MIDI controller reaches Sonar, but not the rest. In practice, however, it's too complicated and requires a lot of work in the MIDI device preferences.

Really well explained, I think I understand now. Thanks! But if you could block individual inputs, then Sonar wouldn't even need to distinguish what's coming in. So there's no way to temporarily exclude a device from the MIDI flow? That means Sonar lets all MIDI data in unfiltered at once, unless you deactivate the device in Preferences --> MIDI Devices. So "All Devices In" is actually it's nature.

There's a nice tool in the Microsoft Store called MIDI Pocket. It's freeware and very similar to the MIDI OX program. It also displays MIDI ports and has a MIDI filter. Things I wish Sonar had... MIDI Pocket Nov-25.mp4

Sorry for my unqualified question, Sir. So, if I want to record the signals from only three of my five input devices, I have to turn them off, unplug them, or deregister them in the preferences --> MIDI Device to silence them. Otherwise, the signals flow unfiltered into the DAW without me being able to control them? Why shouldn't I be able to decide which signals are included in my project? And why is this question so strange? And especially in the area of "RemoteCcontrol," Sonar is not to be trifled with, because it can't distinguish which controller the MIDI CC is coming from, and then you'll quickly run into problems with the assignment. It can't detect the port; otherwise, there would be an option to select one in the remote control window.

Mute can also silence a incomming MIDI signal, just try

But I have serious doubts about that, after dealing with this for over a year now. It seems to me that Sonar can't distinguish between the MIDI ports. Just try it out and route an incoming CC10 / Chn5 from two different hardware controllers in the remote control window (--> Clip-Editor). I have experienced it working sometimes, but most of the time all the controls in the synthrack react synchronously and cannot distinguish between them.

Well, that's really puzzling me... all echoes are off and all tracks are muted, and yet I can still record MIDI notes with both hardware MIDI controllers at the same time. There is something I don't quite understand about the MIDI signal architecture, or have I set something incorrectly in the preferences? 🙃 Sonar all Off-Recording.mp4 I've experimentally created a MIDI track for each channel of my two MIDI controllers that sends MIDI data. I haven't given up on trying to send two identical CCs on the same channel with both MIDI controllers while triggering two different VST parameters. Oh well, nobody cares anyway, right? - Nectar GXP61 Keyboard --> Track 3 Chn-1 - Beatstep Pro SEQ1 --> Track 5 Chn-3 on Port loopMIDI Port-5 - Beatstep Pro SEQ 2 --> Track 6 Chn-4 loopMIDI Port-5 - Beatstep Pro Drum --> Track 4 Chn-1 loopMIDI Port-5 - Beatstep Pro (Control Mode) --> Track 7 Chn 11 - Touch Portal MIDI Controller --> Track 8 Chn loopMIDI Port-4 - Touch Portal MIDI Controller --> Track 9 Chn loopMIDI Port-4

Perhaps a save history could be programmed, like with re/undo?