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Great job! Very tasteful playing.
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As usual, Bajan Blue, it's very well written, excellent musicianship and vocals and the song has a strong grove, hook and is very memorible. Kudos to the band and everyone involved. Your lead singer really stands out -- as singers that good are rare. An exceptional job, but again, everything I've heard from you is superb.
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Wow TracingArcs, I love it! Great job.
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Odin 2 synth (free, open source) - Update 2.3.4 now available
PavlovsCat replied to abacab's topic in Deals
Uh-huh, Uh-huh, how many presets? I have downloaded this and installed a previous version but still haven't tried it. I'll give it a shot this weekend. I was intrigued by the Venus Theory video on the landing page with a bunch of patches that sounding very good. -
Wow, this thread is really rolling! Thanks to everyone who's adding their own lists. Could you imagine stumbling across this thread when you were just getting started using a DAW, especially if you had little or no budget? We're making it super easy for people to find the best freebies. Eventually, I'm going to better organize the original post to group like instruments in the various sub categories. So far everyone has added libraries I know and completely agree with being excellent recommendations, so I'll be making additions to the original post. Great job, everyone!
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Posted in the Cakewalk forum one month later... "Did you hear about the thread in the Deals forum that ended in three members getting banned? All over a story about a guitarist who lost an ear due to a baritone guitar accident that was somehow misunderstood." Really? No ****?
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I once knew a guy who knew a guy who lost his ***** in a stage accident. It took the band's roadies over an hour to find it and by then it was too late to even attempt to re-attach it, so the guy had to live with a prosthetic ***** for the rest of his life. Tragic. Disclosure: I have no idea what ***** stands for. I just think letting people speculate what you're referring to is hilarious. I'll show myself out...
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@DorondonI'm totally with you on 88E by Impact Soundworks. I've even used that library in a song and love it, particularly one patch that's reminiscent of an 80s orchestra hit patch that was used in some songs back then.
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I've had that same thought many times. This forum is the music related forum I spend 90% of online forum time at. Why? The people. This forum the most helpful and friendly community of any forum of its kind that I know of. I've led digital marketing, including social media, at a bunch of companies, including some very large global brands and also ran a couple of forums for my own sites and I realize that the forum ownership plays a significant part of the community culture, so Bandlab and the moderators here also deserve significant credit for fostering and maintaining a really healthy community. Other forums that are a lot larger, like KVR and VI Control have their strengths, but they have very different forum cultures, which are the result of many factors, like the forum's policies and what the forum moderators encourage and discourage. Some of the sites can be very clickish. VI Control has always had these weird hanger on personality cults where developers and pro composers are rockstars and the ownership prioritizes around the developers, as opposed to users, because that's where they make their money. Whereas Bandlab's forum policies-- even while I've been critical of the one about not letting developers deep link-- reflect that Bandlab has a very user centric approach and that's rare for this space. Bandlab and their moderators deserve a lot of credit for the very helpful and friendly culture they've nurtured. We're not a big community, but we're big enough to make it very useful and having @cclarryis pretty much like having 20 additional members scouting and posting deals.
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That sucks, Reid. Sorry. I realize, you shared you had enough stress going on in your life right now and didn't need to deal with this too. I hope it goes easier than it appears and you're back to making music again soon.
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I want to tell the story of why I am so fond of Starship Krupa. Last year, I started attempting to play music again, 20 years after an injury kept me from being able to play for even a few minutes without pain. Since I was a little kid, I was always focused on being a good musician and never had much of a voice. So, in my 50s, 20 years of not playing -- I did noodle around every so often over the years, but my last DAW PC hard drive died, I went 10 years without another DAW PC. I wanted to at least record some songs I wrote for my kids when they were very young (they're now teenagers) and the pandemic gave me a heightened sense of mortality, to do it now so in case I was gone they would have some reminders of how much I love them (and also what a crap voice their old man had!). I also thought it would be cool to redo the demos of songs I wrote that my original band was planning to record with a singer we never found. So, it's weird playing again when you even wonder if you could play. While I've been making multitrack recordings since I was probably 12 or 13. I've only showed them with musicians and immediate family (all musicians). In all those years, I never learned the art of mixing. Starship Krupa offered to mix one of the first songs I ever shared in the Songs subforum. I thought about taking him up on his offer, but didn't think it was worth his time. But I'll never forget his kind offer and encouragement and every time I see his posts, I always feel like this man is a true mensch.
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I'm totally with you, Dorondon. I mostly download Pianobook libraries in KONTAKT format, but I really wanted to do this for people who don't have the budget for KONTAKT (full version), hoping that someone whose budget was tight might come across this list and find a goldmine of really beautiful and free sample libraries. While most of these libraries aren't the extensively sampled libraries that I tend to purchase, many of them are still worthwhile because of their character, or as you wrote, their "unique feel" that even though I have a great deal of paid KONTAKT sample libraries, I'll use one of them if I feel their character fits the song I'm working on. Like VSL's Soft Imperial Piano, it sounds beautiful. I love it more than many of the piano libraries I've paid for. I'm planning on doing a similar thread featuring recommended free KONTAKT libraries too. But I wanted to prioritize this list because it doesn't require a musician to have any budget so that those who may not have the money to buy a bunch of sample libraries can find some really nice ones without spending anything.
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I've updated the list. BTW, when I see people mention freebies that I find are worthy of recommending -- that I simply didn't recall when making my list -- I'll add them to my list. But please don't let that stop you from making your own list. The value here is that it's not just a list of freebies, it's a list of free sample libraries that you have downloaded and installed and are personally telling others, this is a good quality sample library that is worth downloading and installing. That's the value of having a curated list as compared to a list of everything we've ever found that's free. These lists should help others to easily find what we believe are the better/best freebies.
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All great recommendations that should have been in my list! I love the SonusScore Pipe Organ and Project Sam and everything else you added. They'll definitely be in my updates. Hopefully, this thread will be something that brings some joy to people on a tight budget or with no budget.
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Of course, everyone can do it however they want but I kind think it would be useful if you did something like a bold headline across any posts with your recommended libraries like this: NIKY'S LIST OF RECOMMEDED FREE SAMPLE LIBRARIES Then you could come back from time to time and update that post.
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A Curated List of More Than 170 Of The Best Free Sample Libraries, Plugins and Free Soft Synths (UPDATED JUNE 2024) All libraries have been tested and a brief review is provided before each link. I am not in agreement the new policies and practices of BandLab and will not be participating in this forum moving forward. Consequently, I have deleted my list from this forum and will be moving it elsewhere enabling me to regularly update it. You can PM me for information on the new location of this list. This list will be regularly updated. I've also created a list of my favorite free sample libraries for KONTAKT:
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Joe, I couldn't find the thread I made several months ago, but it had a lot of KONTAKT sample libraries for the paid player. Sometime today or this weekend, I'm going to put together a list of sample libraries I recommend from Pianobook and elsewhere that are free and can be used in a free player. I've already started on it and will keep a document for future use this time. I'll invite others to share their recommended libraries. The idea is that everything will be recommendations. Libraries we've actually used, so hopefully, it will save you time finding the best free libraries and I've started making the list and it's pretty nice with a lot of variety and sources from Pianobook and far beyond. I'll tag you when I put it up!
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That's exactly what I've found. I've downloaded many of the pianos there and found a fair amount of them have a lot of noise and other issues. The libraries are often made by musicians trying their hand at sampling and coding for their first time, so you need to set your expectations accordingly. But sometimes you can find some really wonderful libraries there. I think it's worth the effort. It's a great and inspiring ccommunity of very generous musicians giving away their work fof free -- and some are paid, to make the venture profitable for Spitfire (to be realistic, having this site and huge files costs money, so I think that's completely reasonable-- I just love that. I created a thread in the past sharing my favorite Pianobook libraries and others joined in, if anyone is interested and wants to search for it. I would be game to update it if anyone thinks it would be helpful and save them time. Just let me know.
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Wow, thanks, @Christian Jones. I love Alice in Chains and The Cure back on the day (my musical tastes are all over the map) and I love "Pull Me Under" and some Dream Theatre here and there (but especially love their playing). One thing I'm thinking is that my lack of mixing skills might mean I'll need to learn something new to manage the low end if I heavily use a baritone guitar for rhythm parts, because I could imagine issues with the bass part. So now I have some ideas and I'm going to back to some songs with baritone guitar and pay attention to how they use it and try to write a song with baritone guitar in mind. And oops, I'll go listen to all of the Orange Tree Samples demos. I took years of piano, organ and drum lessons and a handful of guitar lessons, so I really don't know jack about guitars beyond knowing guitarists do stuff like alternative turning, but I don't remember playing with guitarists using a baritone guitar, but maybe someone did and I simply had no idea. But I am pretty fascinated about experimenting with this and I'm good at coming up with guitar riffs, so I think I'm going to start there, laying down a drum groove and trying riffs over that. Thanks again for the insights, Christian.
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I watched it from start to finish before I posted and listened to all the examples. The reason I still had questions was basically, while I know what it sounds like from the video and I was mentally comparing the sounds to what I've heard in songs, as a fake guitarist, I'm trying to get an idea of the various types of situations where a real guitarist would use it so I can try that out. The articles I read since originally posting really helped. But I'd still love to get insights from anyone here. An example of something I just read I want to try was using the guitar for layering guitar parts in different octaves. https://www.musicindustryhowto.com/baritone-guitar/ I thought it was pretty wild to read a song I loved since I was a wee lad (Witchita Lineman) used a baritone guitar, because before listening to the video, my thoughts were the guitar was mainly suited for very aggressive music. Is Glen Campbell playing a baritone guitar on this version of "Witchita Lineman"? (I love this version even more than the original, )
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Mainly just for riffs or for entire rhythm guitar parts throughout a song?
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I honestly don't know much about baritone guitar, but I really love the sounds. A bunch of you guys that commented play guitar and although I know Greg, I was just wondering, because I'm a pretend guitarist, what are the types of situations where you would you reach for a baritone guitar? I understand how it sounds, and listening to the video I'm getting ideas for how I could use it and I'm thinking of songs I've heard this kind of guitar in and it sounds like what I recall hearing in a bunch of 90s alt rock, the band "Live" immediately comes to mind, also southern rock (yes, a kid from Chicago also grew up loving Skynyrd and the Allman Brothers as well as prog rock, Coltrane, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder and Chopin and lots of other stuff that doesn't seem to fit), specifically I'm thinking this is the kind of guitar that gave Mollly Hatchet their edgy guitar sound. But those are just hunches. I'd love to learn from people who actually play guitar. If anyone has drum questions, I'm happy to return the favor! UPDATE: I just read two articles and learned a bunch of songs I wouldn't have thought of, like a Cure song, use the baritone guitar and one song I've always loved that doesn't fit with any other styles mentioned above, Glen Campbell's "Witchita Lineman. " https://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/news/140617/
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@abacabthat quote you included at the end is a big part of what always made this song lyrically brilliant to me. So many people hear the word "hallelujah" in the song and don't understand the way Cohen intended it and the entire context of its use in the song. @InstrEd, I give a tip of the hat to the church music director (I think that's what she is, as someone else is directing the choir) in the video you shared for her discernment. I love songwriting, both the music and the lyrics and always thought this song was brilliant and found Cohen a brilliant songwriter. But while Cohen wrote great songs, but he wasn't a very good singer and I always found it took someone else covering his songs to realize their greatness. Cohen's original version back in the 80s from "Various Positions " isn't very compelling. IMO. It wasn't until 1994 when I heard Jeff Buckley's cover on my favorite radio station that I felt the song and felt it had been given the treatment it deserved. For me that was the definitive version of the song. An interesting article on the song: https://www.rollingstone.com/feature/how-leonard-cohens-hallelujah-brilliantly-mingled-*****-religion-194516/ An even deeper dive into the lyrics. https://forward.com/culture/music/469890/leonard-cohen-hallelujah-shrek-jewish-jeff-buckley-alan-light-kabbalah/
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@chris.r Some great choices, but man, I'm still not over Chick Corea's passing. I actually became a fan when I was a kid of (next topic change!) jazz fusion and listened to Return to Forever (I also loved Mahavishnu Orchestra). I haven't came across many people --in real life -- who felt similarly. But RTF is how I discovered Chick. We're still on jazz and you threw me a slight curve and modified our ever-changing dynamic topics to Christmas jazz. I want to stay on topic. So, I'll start with my favorite jazz GOATS, John Coltrane and Miles Davis. It's not my favorite Coltrane song, but I had to stay on the Christmas jazz theme or you could rightfully call me out for going off topic. Otherwise. I'll go with a larger collection.
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That song's lyrics are brilliant enough that it deserves it's own thread and I'd love that discussion. I love the song, it's one of my all time favorite songs. But so often people here the "hallelujahs" and mistake it as religious song and don't pay attention to ALL of the lyrics don't realize that it's actually a song about lust and adultery. And yet, because of the word hallelujah being in the song, this song sometimes ends up being performed in churches or in a viral video, performed as a duet by a father and her young daughter. Very strange.