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that literally doesn't make sense but you have to agree that proaudio/sonar/cbb has always been pretty much excluded, i've always blamed marketing, the one exception being anderton's sos column (no longer there), even when partnering with big players like roland and then bought by gibson, this forum still blames those corps for lack of success maybe you don't want a discussion/suggestions and will now delete this pwal account also? (please don't)

because: 1. we've asked for it for ages 2. it makes sense for new users who don;t know what a driver is (bl subs) 3. why is everyone so upset about any suggestions about change 4. if the world was run by "yes men" we'd end up... oh.. errrr

because sonar's the only pc-only daw?

haha, yes of course i know what asio4all is, but hey other daws like say ableton live, explicitly do recommend it, cakewalk/sonar is the only daw that has issues, i guess because it's incompatible with their driver inplemetation, which has always been windows-only, and every other daw has a cross-platform driver implementation (being cross-platform daws) cakewalk/sonar is now bundled with a social media account aimed at non-pros, so to make it work "out of the box" for teens who don't know what a "driver" would only benefit everybody so don't take a suggestion as a criticism fwiw, i've used this daw (and others) since the late 90s it's perfectly possible to make chart/successful music without a nice audio interface 🤷‍♀️

it's not just since they went free, they've never been considered mainstream, i guess because windows only? but yeah, since forever when did they last have a namm table? tbf, if it's free why don't plugin devs test in it.., etc, and so on

make cbb/sonar work with asio4all it would mean all the new users (bl members) could just get on with their onboard realtek and enjoy the software, sonar a great daw, like they do with next and every other daw, without having to spend money on a "pro" audio interface of course it means some code refactoring but everyone wins in the end surely? and don't just say wasapi (that's a japanese sauce :P) and if not, why not?

and to follow up that, why aren't plugin devs testing in sonar?

very david lynch video

to summarise troubleshooting 101, if something works ok in other hosts but not a particular one, then that one is the "main suspect" 🤷‍♀️

but not other daws? i'm guessing plugin devs dev their thing and test in some daws, but it does seem that cbb/sonar is an outlier

certainly with the mdr-7506 all the bits are replaceable, so i'd investigate that before buying a whole new set?

good call, as the symptoms are UI related

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Clifford Gilberto–Restless

hmhb - restless legs

Kikagaku Moyo - Tree Smoke

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the essex green - Trees

The High Llamas "Here Come the Rattling Trees"

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ffs

i think it would be useful if we knew what systems/plugs the dev team dev/test with, debug symbols, and maybe even the test scripts they use... however, i've requested this a couple of times over the last almost-30 years but never got a response