Roy Slough

An email from BandLab gave a link to try AutoPitch. This opens in a web browser. Can I use AutoPitch in my local CbB, if so how do I add it, is it a VST or a regionFX? Similarly, from my old analogue days, I wanted to try a aural exciter (used to add "sparkle" to vox, guitars etc.) Is there a free FX I can add? Thanks

OK, Am new to CbB but have done work previously with audacity. I cannot find an easy guide to manipulating clips in tracks. If I split a clip and delete a section and then drag the edge of the remaining clip, the section I deleted is still there, revealed by the drag. I understand this is because the original clip is not altered just reference pointers to it but is it possible to trim a section so all the previous and following audio/midi is gone. e.g. I have a vocal in the middle 8 I want to process differently. I split the clip to isolate the section, move it to a new track for different processing/mixing and I don't want all the previous and following sound/data. Midi data has similar features. If I drag the edge of a midi clip (previously split) it repeats the notes contained within, but this includes notes from earlier in the clip which I didn't want even if I split it. And lastly (for this question) I have imported several audio tracks, created Midi from the drums. I finally got the tempo sorted manually (if anyone knows how to set tempo from any of the tracks I would appreciate it) Now I find all tracks are .050 behind the beat. How can I move everything? I tried selecting all and dragging left (with Snap off) and the sound totally changed, effects on vox and guitars were lost, midi drums had new sounds etc. It may be that use of Ctrl, or Shift or Alt. may be the answers but I am having trouble finding in the CbB help. Thanks

Thanks I have downloaded and added the AmpleSound Bass P Lite and will try it. I searched around both in CbB and Melodyne but failed to find the default octave setting so if anyone can direct me I would be grateful.

Now that I have Melodyne working correctly under a trial version, I have my Drums to Midi sorted (works with drum replacer so I can choose bet fit) However converting a bass guitar so I can use the SI-Bass guitar and things are a little weird. Many notes created are below the lowest available in Si-Bass which requires a transpose by 12 to bring everything up an octave ( I assume 12 is the correct number to use = 12 semitones) Now I know the playing is a little sloppy (My ex lead singer playing bass) but there are loads of miss triggers wrong notes etc. So I have 2 questions...... Is there no additional filter/import filter in after choosing Automatic, Default, percussive, melodic etc..? = e.g. Drum replacer offers a frequency dial to only trigger correct notes Otherwise, are there any suggestions on how to correct either the conversion of the track and/or correction of the midi once created and transposed? I attach a section of the bass track (please don't be too judgemental on the playing style) I had to export an MP3 the source is a wav but too large to attach, but I believe an MP3 should be OK Thanks Track-003-Bass .mp3

OK all sorted, Thanks everyone. It appears Melodyne was not installed correctly and despite several appempts to accept the trial is was always running in player mode. Following help from Melodyne support it is now working correctly. I am getting blobs AND midi is appearing inside CbB N.B. Drum replacer did work to give me Midi notes, but that only worked for drum. SO thanks again and all you comments opened my eyes to features and stuff I would have taken ages to find. I do have additional questions but will start a new thread for those (I believe this is correct protocol) ?

Thanks Treesha, Now working on Bass guitar parts..... I have tried closing and double clicking as you suggested, but still no blobs in Melodayne AND it has not identified the note pitch (all notes are A. I have even tried using melodyne directly opening the application and not from within CbB, but again all results same. I will try more options over Easter and then on Tuesday if still no success I will follow Canopus suggestion, contact Celemony see what they say and try and get my trial period re-started If you have any other suggestions for me to try over easter I will be pleased to try

Well it seems my Cakewalk doesn't do what everyone else does. Could it be my version 2024.02 (build 098, 64bit) has had all the best features removed as there will be a new pay for version coming out. I am going to uninstall and re-install in case there was something I missed. If anyone knows this version to be restricted can they direct me to an historic download site with a previous version?

Thanks Canopus, I followed the video and fell at nearly the first fence. When I create the drum replacer there is no Midi Note below each sample track. This is probably important and maybe the clue as to why all my attempts to create Midi from Audio Fail. I will try to continue the process later but after 5 solid hours of trying different methods, Audio sources, Manual entry/editing of Midi etc. My brain hurts and I need to stop for a while To be continued......

Thanks Glenn. I just checked for updates from within Melodyne and it says it is the latest version. Also checking the licence status from within Melodyne also states within trial period (see screenshot in prior post) Apologies guys that this seems so negative, I am trying my best to explore all the suggestions given.?

I just started Melodyne directly (not though CbB) Imported a bass track and it appears as screenshot below All notes are "A" (which is not correct) ?? Everyth

Well..... Initially I got whatever installed with Cakewalk. Then when I was accessing the Melodyne area (via the region fx) I was presented with an internet web page offering me a subscription OR a 30 day trial. I took the 30 day trial but as yet have seen no change in what I am presented with. Perhaps I need to do some thing within Melodyne itself to activate the 30 day trial? I checked and Melodyne says it is in Trial mode (see screenshot)

I also loaded the time to fly demo project and tried to do the audio to midi convert using one of the tom tom audio tracks. Same result = no data

Apologies Mettelus, I didn't see your post before John's I have tried both just left click & Drag and ctrl & drag, Attached are screenshots of the create soft synth track and the result of dragging the Audio to the midi track of the soft synth (I have returned to drums as this is what i need most), AmI creating the target midi track the correct way? After the dragI can see nothing in the Midi track and I believe I should see something unless there is another view I should use.?

Okay, I only mentioned the regional FX because it showed both Melodyne and Drum Replacer. If I start playing with Pitch correction etc. I will look at Melodyne then (I'm not very good at pitch so hopefully Melodyne will identify off pitch stuff for me - People tell me my lead singer was often flat but I can't hear it) Anyways, back to the Audio to Midi conversion. All the videos I watch show it just working, No matter which algorithm I choose (Melodic, Percussive, Automatic, default) It says Mixing down Audio, Analysing Audio , then nothing in the Midi track. It is the same if my source is Stereo or Mono Audio, Drums or Bass. Just to double check, what do you mean by instrument track. I can create Audio, Midi and soft synth tracks. Ctrl Drag to both Midi and the Midi track created with a soft synth have the same result = no data? Once again thanks for all you help on this, I could revert to recording new drums but this would need me to purchase a Midi USB input device for my drum pad (90's Roland Pad5) and it would be nice to work out if it is user error or a system restriction/problem before I give up.

Thanks John, I have checked and it is Melodyne 5.3.1.018 And I activated a 30 day trial version (probably premature as yet I don't have the skills to play with it.) However, I also did notice that if I create a region FX with melodyne, then process that region again with Melodyne the option to copy Midi events is greyed out. DO we think THIS is the source of my troubles? (see attached screenshots) N.B ATM I am working with a mono Bass track, Melodyne does not recognise the note scale (every note is A) and Ctrl Drag does not create a region in the Midi track. Also the algorithm options within Melodyne are greyed out like yours. I do get the option to choose algorithm when doing the Ctrl Drag, but Default, automatic, percussive (when trying drums) all have the same result of no region in the new midi track Approaching from a different angle, is there another free way to convert audio to Midi ? (outside of CbB & Melodyne) Thanks again

LOL Great minds think alike!!! I have been playing with bass instead of drums. The Melodyne player version shows notes but it has not analysed any note (all notes are A (which I know isn't correct) I will return to Melodyne later...... Meanwhile, On creating Midi from Audio neither bass nor drums, Mono or Stereo is successful. I see messages about analysing Audio etc. but no result. Also I have noticed if I Ctrl drag to another audio track a new "segement" appears in that track. (not sure if this is the correct term) Ctrl drag to a midi track creates no segment (see before and after Screenshots)

Some more on this = I have found Drum Replacer, it is a region FX found by right clicking on a track Also Melodyne appears here and when I launch it I get a message about player only or activate (But activate just gives an error message) Launching the player mode show something similar to things I have seen on YouTube tutorials. THEREFORE Melodyne is installed as a player version, but the Click and drag method does not create any midi notes (drums) in the destination track I am learning, slowly.....

Some more on this = I have found Drum Replacer, it is a region FX found by right clicking on a track

Thanks John, Right now I am swamped with info and I am struggling with the basic config. When I chose to download the Cakewalk Bandlab it said it would not run on my Win 7 Machines so I decided to use my Win 11 Laptop. Maybe a wrong decision as my desktop has soundcards etc. But the Win 11 has SSD drives and a faster processor so maybe correct decision. Anyway, I installed and during the process I was offered several Additional options in small windows which appeared simultaneously. (very similar to the checking VST window which appear when I start Cakewalk (Should I call it CbB? as many quote this) I chose some which I thought relevant and ignored others as I assumed I could go back and add later, but now I cannot find any of these again. With that thought I have directed towards "drum replacer" I can't find any reference to this in the menus of CbB and the only online documentation says it should be installed with CbB???? what do I do = How can I check and once checked how to rectify? It seems many things are add-ons to CbB = possibly run as plugins, but as a novice it is hard to discriminate between built in stuff & plugins. I would be grateful for any advice you have OR online documentation or Videos that could help . I do have some knowledge of tracks, tempos etc. from my processing of audio with Audacity and another midi editor from 10 years ago. Thanks

OK thanks for all the advice and info. Basically I am re-mixing a track for my ex lead singer from the 90s I suspect the drum track is a simple loop of kick & snare and is constant tempo throughout. He has said he wants to improve the drum track as part of the process and I will probably re-record the bass guitar also (As I was the bass player) I found this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7D3wZldUJw which has shown me a technique to make sure the tempo matches the track, then I can add replacement drums in a new Midi track, in the knowledge it will remain in time. Then in the future I might try Melodyne as it look impressive. but baby steps first. I will also investigate the drum replacer feature but as the drums need improvement (Pattern, fills etc.) this is again a future option if I start to work with my old drummer. So thanks for all the help - let's consider this thread closed although I will look to see if you have any more helpful comments.

Thanks John, So the "select algorithm" dialogue box and the processing info in the time signature area is all a red herring and it wasn't doing it at all? Is there another way to replace the drum sounds I have? Thanks

Thanks Treesha, I have had an interesting investigation into melodyne and it definitely something I want to ply with. However, I cannot find any view for melodyne in my cakewalk. Probably because I have not added the plug in or something. OR it is there and I can't see it. So is having Meoldyne installed/added as a plug in essential in this audio to midi conversion process?

Thanks for the advise so far - I have repeated the operation but still without result. Here are some screenshots to show my process (I was not able to capture an image of the messages "analysing Audio" etc. but they appeared over the time stamp (top right) Any further thoughts as to what I am doing wrong?

Hi, New to cakewake (If you forget the brief use I did in the mid 90s) Trying to covert an audio track to Midi so I can assign new sounds (It's a drum track) I followed the instructions on a tutorial = Hold down Ctrl, drag audio to midi track. There was a dialogue box saying analysing audio, converting etc. but when it finished there was nothing in the midi track. I guess there will be further questions once I get some data in the track of how to assign output to VST sounds, but until I can see some midi data I believe I am chasing shadows. I have used midi tracks in an old editor back in 2008 but that was on a different computer (Windows 7) I am using a Windows 11 laptop