Nitrate Audio

No. I have never tried capturing anything in ToneX. I just use it to play guitar. I think there are quite a few recordings out there of what amps in a room sound. The Donny Hathaway is a great example of a amped guitar in a room. Cornell Dupree just plugged into an amp with a cable. No effects or anything IIRC. Anyways, my thought on ToneX are if's cool, but it's a PITA to use sometimes. My point is, so far, my only exposure to captures has been ToneX, and I don't think it's that much of a night and day difference to sims. Obviously the huge difference in output volume between captures. But also, the captures I use it for, which are mostly cleans and low to mild crunch and gain, they still sound like a sims. And then also when using it within AT5, tends to make it sound more like AT5 (duh!) which I always thought has its own particular flavor of amp sim digital. As you add more AT5 rack effects, if sounds more so. I can't quite explain it, but it just sounds like the IKM AT5 sound engine and it sounds totally different to other amp sim products. To my ears, S-gear sounds really different.

I have a number of amp sims. Amplitube, AmpRoom, Stark, and others. S-gear is very different. It's best to try demo if you are interested. I am not sim developer so i am not sure why they are different. my guess is, there might be different ways to emulate guitar amps and circuits. FWIW.. I also use ToneX and that's also different. I don't know if I would call it sounding like the real thing. The challenge with the real thing is that what does that really mean? Hearing an amp in a room or stage is very different sound than mic'ing an amp and recording that sound into a DAW. From my experience with experimenting, a sim gives me better result than my trying to record an amp using a mic in my home studio.

s-gear sounds and feels very different from tonex to me. not comparable.

i think so. (i may be wrong).

this was a steal. grabbed 'er while she was hawt

It looks like 60+ gb of space needed. They used to sell this in a box, right? now you would have to download it all. Yikes.

yup. thats what it seems like to me. hopefully no credit card info is stored on their old system.

how good is this? anyone use it on a modern M4 Mac?

its starting to look like it

49 for me.

heartbeat is buggy as hell. the rest are good.

No issues. just checking as I am sometimes worried about IK updates as they break things sometimes. What is a Cal script?

has anyone installed this and tested it yet?

I use mixbus. it was a good product. i also picked up the sunset sound modules. what is useful about it is you were able to use t racks modules as well as other stuff, all in just one slot , and it had its own built in quasi mixer where you control levels. also had side chain for some modules. this was a good overview of how to use it.