Michael Elliott

They did post a separate thread (which I'd replied to asking the usual questions about their settings) but the thread is no longer there?

Sorry the below got a lot longer than i meant it to, i tried trimming it back down but.... Down 9dB is supposed to be "audibly half" of what it sounds like at 0dB, from what I have read (6dB is what I learned a long time ago but that only shows up in some searches when I checked while trying this), and since you'd said it was overpowering, I figured cutting it by half should be better. I can hear a difference myself, actually liked it better the way it was, but if it's overpowering for listeners then they probably won't want to listen, so I changed it. If I could hear the problem I would just fix just the problem. I tried just using an EQ (actually a stack of the Sonitus EQ) to shelve the lows at various cutoff frequencies up to about 200hz, at -18db for each of the six units inside each EQ, which should have been enough to cut those frequencies totally out and make a hole in the earth deep enough to hold a billion more, but couldn't see or hear any difference in the output, using Voxengo SPAN (the only spectrum analyzer I can use inside SONAR) on either the bass tracks or on the master bus. It's pretty frustrating since I inow this should work, but it doesn't appear to do anything. I know hte eq's work because they do everyting I need them to othe rhtan this. 😕 Looks like that's a purchase-only item, so out of my zero dollar budget. also...see****** at tje end of this post This is all a (necessary for sanity) hobby for me, so any money spent on it has to come out of things like my household / food budget. I'll never make money off the music so it won't pay for anything i buy for it, so those purchases are few and very far between. (most stuff I've bought has been thrift store hardware purchases as I run across things I could never afford to buy new but could use for things I can't do easily or at all with thigns I lready have; some of these have been mistakes but at least they were very cheap ones 😆 It wouldn't help if it just has presets like that, since most of my music doesn't fit in categories like that. It would need a preset for every different piece I make that adapts itself to that piece. I can see stuff fine in spectral analyzers, and can use EQs to fix things, but there are some of them that I can't seem to fix like bass problems, and i can't understand how it doesn't work since it should just be a matter of setting the eq to enough db down in the right frequency band to take out or reduce those frequencies as I'm telling it to...but it doesn't seem to work in cases like this one, or Less Like A Whisper, etc. and I can't see why not. Doesn';t seem like I should need a special tool to see and take out stuff, it should jsut work with these two tools. I don't understand what you mean? I can't check your environment without coming there to you, and I wouldn't know what to look for? If you mean *my* environment, it doesn't really matter since my sound system has no (usable) sub (I have some thing from an old computer-speaker system but it's pretty crappy) and can't reproduce those really low lows. What I use most of the time is an old Vizio soundbar because it's "average' and so when I compose and mix on it then what I make should play back on "most" people's sound systems; it's the "best" compromise I could make. I'd rather use my even older Acoustic Research Powered Partners but whenever I make stuff using htose (which are crisper and clearer than the vizio by quite a bit) it sounds all wrong when I play it back on other people's average systems, (like this vizio sb). So I don't use them much anymore, as my big compromise to help people hear more of what I make by limiting myself to what comes out of the vizio instead. I'd rather use the ARs and hear what I really want to....but then people like it even less. I have a sub for *a* vizio soundbar but it's not for *this* one and doesn't have any input jacks, just the wireless connection that only pairs with the sb it was designed for, which I don't have. I have looked up the little info available on the chips inside but haven't found anything that would let me wire up an input jack to it. If I did have a working sub I'd be making "music" that includes even more musical bits that only exist down there..... Yeah i know a lot of people compromise what they make to deal with people's inadequate playback devices but since i work by sound, and it's the actual sound that is what my music is, not the notes or whatever, then I can't add in stuff that shouldn't be there just to let them hear it...then they aren't hearing my music, they're hearing...whatever it is that was stuck in there. To me, it's like having a painting that happens to have a color pallette that is dark, intending to convey a certain look, and then having people with dim lights not being able to see the detail in it...i can't repaint it brighter to help them, it would ruin what it is. I relaly don't make "music" as most peple think of it; I make sound sculptures that resemble music in some ways. 😆 Yeah, I miss winter....seems like it's been a few years since we've really had one. But I guess that's expected the waythings are going. ****** Also, I can't install new things for my old SONAR due to some problem with the VST adapter resetting and losing existing plugins / settings, and causing my existing projects to not work because they no longer see stuff that is still there just like it's always been. Long story short it's not fixable by any means I have available, as I can't spend more months to manually fix each thing that breaks, so I leave it alone and just use what I have. If I could figure out the system which teh VST adapter uses to create a VST ID for a plugin, then I could just manually create registry entries for each new plugin in the right sections, but I have never been able to find any information about this anywhere, in all my years of looking. Someday I may have time to finish setting up a "new" system and get everything all working in that so I can add new things there, but it isn't going to be soon. For full mixes I can take them into Audacity which can use some VSTs (most of them crash it or are silent) but this doesn't help me compose, just fix things afterward, and it's difficult to use since most of it's tools work totally different than they should, are very unintuitive, etc. It's even pickier than SONAR for where to click on things and I often have such trouble doing that it's very slow and frustrating work, and no fun. I still use it for audio editing for samples and such to use within SONAR for things that I can't directly do in SONAR (really just fixing sample-level glitches and the like). I also use it soemtiems for jsut dropping a bunch of new audio loops or whatever into to hear how they sound togehter or separately when I either already have something going in SONAR or when I don't want to fire that up and make a project and all that stuff, just listen to the raw audio and pick and choose bits for something I will then use in SONAR (this is how I started out the A Peek Over The Wall project, for instance).

Wierd. FW should be hotpluggable.....

What is "Cinnamon Girl"?

There's a new version up at the Bandcamp link in the first post, and now it has a title, "I'm Sure It's Nothing, But....". The old version is still at the Soundclick link there. I udpated the snares to vary them more and better fit the accent spots, removed some of the clips here and there to let it breathe more, fixed some of the mix, turned the bassline down. I don't have a system that can reproduce really low lows, so I guess I can't hear that. I turned down the bassline by 9db; how does it sound now? That, I don't really worry about--I create stuff based on the sound that I hear. If someone doesn't have a system to play it back, I can't really help that. 😊 If I had to create based on the lowest common denominator for people to hear everything that was in my music, I'd have to create it for a range of less than the old rotary dial telephone systems, since the speakers on many celphones today reproduce less than those, and that's the kind of device many people play stuff back on. So i just work with what I hear in the sounds, vaguely like a sculptor chiseling away the marble to find the shape within. Thanks....I have wanted to use vocalizations and such for a very long time, but until this past half-year had no access to a way to include them, as I can never get anyone capable of making such sounds to work with me (well, I can't actually get *anyone* to work with me on anything, but that's another long set of stories). I can't make them myself, I have completely the wrong voice for it even if I had sufficient control over it. But now there are a number of useful vocal sample libraries out there for free, or really really cheap, and I can use, adapt, or hack them to make some of the sounds I want. Sometimes they virtually create the music (such as Less Like A Whisper), sometimes they just fit where I want a sound (such as in this one), sometimes they guide some of my choices, etc....and this is what all sounds do for me. I hear music in everything--I was taking apart an ancient Schwinn trike to build a different kind from, and the wrench hit the spokes, so I played the spokes for a while with a couple of wrenches just for fun. Then I recorded each spoke into the celphone, and some other sounds like scraping the spokes and rim, hanging it from a skinny tree branch and whanging it like a gong, etc. I'll use those in a future project I'm still collecting the sounds for. This is part of the bit I played the wheel, after a moment of listening to which spokes sounded more like "normal" notes relative to each other. schwinbellsmono.wav

Grooveplayer was part of SONAR (possibly also CbB and/or newer versions of Sonar), not part of Windows. If you need Grooveplayer, and if it's not installed as part of the version of Sonar or CbB your'e installing, then you'd have to install it from your older version. If you don't need GP then you can look in the given location for it and unregister it, so that it isn't being looked for by anything. The unregistering process varies depending on your system and the file you're unregistering, so I don't have exact directions for you, but there have been posts here and elsewhere on the internet about this over the years.

Do any of them have card-edge connectors? (I don't still have my 5MB Tandon....)

If the current version is like my ancient one, be careful *where* you click in the ruler. In mine you sset now time by clicking in the bottom half, but clicking in the top half selects *ALL* of the timeline. (clickng and dragging in that part selects just that part of the timeline.) Since i can't control myu movements all that well most of the time, that causes me no end of problems.

Ok. Well, since you won't tell us what your settings were, we can't know if anything we might have said would have helped. Glad you got it working anyway.

Presumably the speakers are powered from the wall AC sockets (the headphones wouldn't be), so you may have a ground loop; this would only be audible in the things connected to the wall. Is the new computer a laptop? If so, unplug it's ac adapter and see if ti goes away. if it does, you can get isolation devices for the ac adapter (1:1 transformers that go between it and the wall) that should fix this. If it's a desktop then you don't have the option of unplugging it, but you could move it to the same outlet as the speakers as a test. Also, if the interfrace has it's own ac adapter, *that* could be the source of the groundloop.

What *are* your specific settings for the metronome? Audio? MIDI? etc etc...

What do you see in the Event List for the notes that are getting stuck (vs any that don't), and/or for that moment in time?

The manual says LINE INPUTS 3 and 4 – 2 x ¼” TRS jacks; these are balanced inputs for use with additional line level sources e.g., from a keyboard, synth module or FX unit. Were the sources also TRS balanced outputs? Or just TS? How were the cables used wired? TS to TS? I don't know what the best wiring should be for that situation, so you may have to research that if you don't already know. 😊 Does the focusrite control software have any adjustments for those inputs? (it has some for the front inputs) Do the instruments being used have gain controls in them? (some equipment has settings for +4dBu vs -10dBv; my GadgetLabs Wave8*24 has this for each channel separately in the control panel (IIRC it's also in the original CP, but it is definitely in the user-created drivers kept updated over the years for it).

fixed that for you. In addition, in every forum / format I've ever been part of, a poster reading the replies to the question they posted is also often neglected, either partially or completely. I'll just leave out the whole answering helper's questions to be able to help them thing. On topic, not that it matters, but I'd prefer the perpetual license just be available, at all. Would probably be find if it was just for whatever the then-current-version of SONAR is, doesn't matter what the included extra content is. That can all be licensed separately once it's updated / available / etc. (suer, there will be people upset that it isn't bundled...or that it's bundled now but wasn't when they got their license, etc., but at least they could *get* the perpetual license. )

If you need simultaneous multiple audio channels from any device to any other device, you need something that either has a digital connection that carries the channels in some encoded way (and boht devices need the same type of connection with the same data format), or you need a separate analog connection and channel for every audio channel you want to flow at the same time, on each device, so there is one out channel on the source device for every channel you want to send to each in channel on the other device. If you want the source device to output 16 channels, it needs 16 individual (mono) line *outs*, not ins. You only need that many ins if you are recording that many channels from an external device, simultaneously. Note that there are also multiple level standards for different devices; some have +4dBu and some have ‑10dBV, and some are switchable. Make sure the devices both use the same level or that you set them both the same.

What specifically do you need it to do? For some existing free sample libraries (mostly from PianoBook.uk) , I've used DecentSampler. I have yet to build any libraries in it, so don't know how easy that is yet. main page https://www.decentsamples.com/product/decent-sampler-plugin/ this is the page for making libraries https://www.decentsamples.com/decent-sampler-developer-resources/ A very old sampler (wasn't free) that can do a lot of stuff is Vsampler, but it is kind of a PITA to build or alter things in. I wish the developer was around to do a GUI revamp on it, to make the processes easy instead of convoluted. https://www.kvraudio.com/news/speedsoft_vsampler_3_released_1318 I mostly use SFZ+ for playback of existing soundfont and similar soundsets, sometimes just to trigger samples. If I only need to trigger a specific single sample or set of them, I may use SessionDrummer3 just dragging and dropping them onto pads or loading htem up in hte menus. No envelope editing, etc in this one, so what you hear is what you get. Rapture and Dimension are actually useable as "samplers", and have good control over the sounds. I don't know if the various "special" versions of them have all the features but the "pro" (ro wahtever they call them) versions are what I use. Haven't used it in a while, but if you have a version of SONAR that includes it, Cyclone was usable. I have yet to check out Independence, but had it recommended to me a couple of times https://www.magix.com/us/music-editing/free-download/independence-free-sampler-software/ There is one called Grace that I've seen references to, but not yet tried. https://www.onesmallclue.com/

is it only wiht MP3 export, or is it also with WAV export? If only MP3 you should check the settings for whatever encoder you're using, in case it has a normalize or other volume-altering function that is set to lower the volume.

That's what this *entire subforum* is for, so you can have a thread per song (or album, or whatever) to get feedback on the individual songs. text under the Songs subforum header: "Post links to your songs, share and discuss."

afaicr ms has had several data breaches in the last few years; perhaps your account info was included in that. dunno if they're required to tell you about data breaches or not; some places are nice and do it to let you know you ougth to change info, though.

lets say you group some of the clips on a track in one group and some of them in a different one, because you need to be able to edit them separately. which of those groups should the track controls respond to? if you muted the track to mute one group, the ohter is also muted but you want to hear those.... that's one of many examples why clip grouping "has" to be separate from track control grouping.

dunno if it's still there but there used to be a process called fit improvisation, if you can just record midi notes at the points you want the beats to be at. quote of the help file of my ancient version if it's useful

If you want the solo for 10 tracks to respond together, you have to group the solo buttons themselves.

AFAIK grouped clips only respond to edits together (and only certain kinds of edits). Track strip functions are still just track strip functions, not clip functions, so they shouldn't be affected by clip grouping. Here's a recent thread about CG: https://discuss.cakewalk.com/topic/83292-linking-tracks-so-edits-on-one-are-applied-to-the-other/

I found one a few years ago on Freecycle, and hauled it home; had to rebuild my trailer with duallies to be sure it would handle the weight. Was not a lot of fun to get it onto (and off of) the trailer, and into the house, but was fun learning to tune it and then be able to play a real one (vs the keyboards i have always had instead). I keep thinking I should install some mics in it to see if I can use JamOrigin's MIDI Guitar to convert it's output to MIDI (since I can't replay anything I am playing; I am 195% "improvisation". because my brain doesn't work right. I would've loved a regular (non-upright) piano, but it'd have had to be disassembled to get it in the house. :lol:

Funny, I just "upgraded" my ancient Ensoniq ASR88 by replacing the floppy drive with a GOTEK HXR2001 floppy emulator (uses a usb stick instead) https://hxc2001.com/floppy_drive_emulator/ so I can use it as my primary input keyboard again (having to either keep a working floppy disk in the drive, or powering up the ancient scsi hdd and hoping it still spins up, and waiting and waiting and waiting for it to spin up and load the OS, etc....kinda deterred me from using it much the last few years). I can still use the sounds and effects it has by powering up that scsi hdd, but almost always I'm using hte softsynths inside SONAR, so.... just nice to have the 88keys all at once instead of the couple of octaves of the rockband keytar thing I often use, or the poorer-mechanics MK-49 generic midi keyboard.... The TG33, FB01, Emu6400, etc, haven't even been turned on in a long while....