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Everything posted by Roger W
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After watching it a few times, I was able to catch all the steps After doing the steps, I found that I had to go into the Midi Ch of each instrument, and change it to a different output channel of my keyboard. Then, I had to set each Cakewalk track's input with the corresponding input channels from my keyboard. This way, each track was individually triggered. I noticed that in the Creative Sauce video, in the Kontakt Output/Batch setting Mike used "Clear output settings and create one individual channel for each loaded instrument" while you used, "Split instruments routed to the first output channel to individual outputs." I tried both, and seemed to get the same result . . . so I don't really understand how these two choices are different? Another question . . . . When setting the Midi Ch input for each instrument, one instrument (out of 16) said, "7 + groups". Even though I chose "[A] 7" in the dropdown, it put "[A] 7 + groups". And playing midi on that track somehow triggered 7 as well as another track. I deleted that instrument and put in another, and everything was normal. That was baffling, and I could not figure out why that was happening?
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Thanks for making that video. I appreciate you taking the time to do that ? However, I had trouble following it completely because some things went by too fast. Is there any way to slow down the playback?
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Thanks for the links ? The 2nd one is the latest and best, including a lot of complex information on how to set up multiple instruments in an efficient way. I found it quite valuable. In his step-by-step instructions, he shows perhaps the best way to use one instance of Kontakt with up to 16 Libraries. This puts less stress on computer processing. Although I may have missed it, he didn't offer a method to keep all tracks from being triggered at once by the keyboard. I copied his setup, yet when I tried it I had that problem. However, looking closely I saw that he had each instrument set to a progressively higher midi channel. This suggests that he had to change his keyboard channel each time he recorded on a track. Perhaps that's the best way to do it?
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Thanks for the tip on the Info button. That solved my problems. Regards Kontakt . . . when you use multiple instances of Kontakt, do you assign each of them to a different inputs and then change the output on your keyboard whenever you want to record on any particular Kontakt-loaded track?
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Using Kontakt in Cakewalk . . . . When I've got several Instruments tracks loaded, I've been assigning each track to a different Midi Input source. Then, when I want to use the keyboard to input to any particular track, I switch the Midi Channel of the keyboard to the associated track. The purpose of this is to prevent midi during recording from triggering any other track. I also thought of another way to do it, using channel 1 for recording the input for all tracks, but after finishing recording to the track, changing that track's input to say Channel 2. Each time after recording into a track, I would also set that track's input to Channel 2. This prevents any of the already recorded tracks from be triggered when recording any new tracks. I'm wonder if there is not another easier way to do this. In your experience, is this the best way to work with multiple Kontakt Libraries? A second question . . . . I tried to use the Kontakt Library "Session Strings Pro 2", but I can't figure out how to set the Midi Channel. The controls are different than all the other Libraries I've tried. Here's a comparison: Session Strings Pro 2: All the other Libraries look like this:
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Related News: The latest update to Positive Grid's Bias FX 2 v.2.7 does not work at all in Cakewalk. I wrote to their tech support, and they suggested that I change DAWs to one of their "approved" programs. I told them I would sooner change my guitar effects program than buy and learn a new DAW! I also said they might lose a lot of money if they didn't make their app Cakewalk-compatible. For example, I was going to buy their Jimi Hendrix pack (now on sale for $49), but changed my mind once I learned my Bias FX had stopped working. If just 10,000 Cakewalk users felt the same way, Positive Grid would lose half a million $ on this Hendrix pack alone.
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When I tried it, moving to a marker did not work during recording.
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OK . . . I tried it ? I find that when doing Vocal Comping, having longish Instrumental Solos play in the middle of a song is a problem. I'll sing the first and second verse, then get distracted while the solo plays before I can sing the 3rd verse. I'll start to think about other things, and lose focus. It would be nice if Cakewalk had a Skip Selection capability -- you make a Selection encompassing the Instrumental solo, so that when the song plays from beginning to end, that solo selection is skipped over. Arranger might seem a simple solution, but it's not, because as far as I can tell you cannot record while playing back an Arrangement. However, here's a method I came up with that uses Arranger . . . . Using Arranger, create two Sections -- one before and one after the Instrumental solo. Move Sections down to Arrangement 1. Mute Vocal track, select all clips in song, Export Arrangement to MP3. Create two Audio tracks below the Vocal track: Track 1 - Original Vocal New Track 2 - for new comp Vocals, input set to Mic Output (#3 in my case New Track 3 - Import Arranger MP3 file Mute all tracks, then UnMute Track 2 and Track 3 Record new Vocal on Track 2, using the imported Arranger MP3 file in Track 3 to sing along with. Record as many vocal comps as desired. Use Comping Tool to create the best vocal. UnMute all Tracks. Then Mute Tracks 1 and 3 Split the best Vocal comp Clip where the Instrumental solo starts, creating two Clips. Align these two Clips with the original song tracks, skipping the solo, of course. You can Solo the original Vocal along with the new Vocal track to insure that you've got the timing right. If correct it will sound Chorus-y. The only thing I found difficult about this method was knowing when to come in with singing for the new track. When creating the new Arrangement, to avoid this be sure to leave enough time at the beginning of each Arrangement Section so you have a clue when to come in. -------------------------- Another way to do this is without using Arranger, which also works . . . although I like Arranger method best. Make a copy of the song file in Cakewalk that you will work with, just in case things get confused. In the original file, delete a Selection containing the Instrumental solo -- dragging in the Time Ruler will insure that the section will be deleted in all tracks. Slide the two remaining Selections together (count the number of meters to slide) by moving the 2nd Selection back toward the first Selection. Mute all unused tracks and Vocal track, then export to MP3. Repeatedly Undo all changes you have made to the file to return it to its unedited state. Create 2 new Audio tracks: 1) Import the MP3 with solo-cut-out into the 1st track. 2) The 2nd track will be used to record the new Vocal, with comping if desired. Mute all tracks, then UnMute the two new tracks. Turn off Monitors, turn off track Echo, then Record Vocal comps. Split the best Vocal Clip where the Instrumental solo starts, creating two Clips. Align these Clips with the other tracks. You can Solo the original vocal along with the new Vocal track to help line it up. Using Snap, it aligns easily.
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Here's why I need some kind of Skip procedure . . . . I'm adding a vocal track to a song with a longish guitar solo in the middle. I would like to sing the 1st and 2nd verse, then proceed right to the 3rd verse -- skipping over the solo section. But as it is now, each time I do a take, I have to wait while the solo plays through before I can sing the 3rd verse. If I could just make a "Skip Selection" around the guitar solo on the Time Ruler, that would be great. The best solution I know of now is to make a copy of the song, delete the solo section by Splitting all tracts and Sliding them to the left, then recording the vocal track. I then have to import the new vocal track back into the full song, then split it before the 3rd verse, and place the 3rd verse after the solo. I've never used the Arranger. Would that be easier?