Absolutely, don’t get me wrong. There are some great plugins. I like their rotary and vibrato. Also as both you and Brian say, the reverb is very comprehensive. I think what put mE off was installing the sound factory and the drum machine. It took ages, and loads of space and I couldn’t really work out what was going on with them. Also…doesn’t that installer put stuff on to the hard drive that you haven’t selected? I’m sure I found a whole bunch of stuff once which I didn’t remember installing. Anyway, you are both right. It’s all good stuff. I’ll give it another go. Thanks :)