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I emailed support about the issue. They are looking in to it. ... 100% video game music! I am working on a project converting SNES (Super Nintendo) soundtracks in to high quality MIDI files. This soundtrack (Super Castlevania IV) is nearly complete. This issue with Cakewalk delayed it ? I just went through all of the files one by one, and only 4 of the 35 were affected. Took about an hour to delete all the extra program changes. Once I test them out, I think it will all be good. If you're curious to hear the final soundtrack when it is complete (as well as the previous soundtrack I have finished, Super R-Type), check out the project playlist on YouTube. It has full soundtrack video(s), as well as links in the video descriptions to my Google drive folder, which contains instructions on the process I am using to create the files, as well as downloadable mp3 and MIDI versions of the soundtracks. New soundtracks will be added as I complete them. Hopefully with all the issues ironed out for the next one https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzNFPVjo8upworyQq0DXDTiCZzPP29Frw

It appears that what is happening is: There is a bank select, followed by a program change in the original file. Cakewalk is holding on to this program change number. There is new bank select followed by a new program change, at which point Cakewalk applies the previous program change number to the new bank select (which it should not), and immediately follows it by the same new bank select but with the new program change number (which it should). You can see in the Sekaiju screenshot that PC 116 is then followed by a wrong PC 116, PC 118 is followed by a wrong PC 118, and the next PC 116 is followed by a wrong PC 116. It does not happen all the time, which is strange. It seems only certain bank selects are having this problem. Thus far, I see it happening with specific melodic perscussions (though I have not analyzed my other files yet). I manually deleted all of the bad PCs in the final version of this same file (which I have already faded, tagged, and renamed before finding out there was a problem) using Sekaiju. The instrument list is now correct in this file. See screenshots of the final file before manually deleting the PCs, and after. The after screenshot matches instruments of the original file before editing with Cakewalk.

Hmm, it looks like any time Cakewalk lists "Patch 100..." in the Patch data field instead of Controller 0, I am getting the issue with instruments. Note that the 3 "Patch 100..." in the Cakewalk screenshot correspond to the 3 erroneous doubled-program changes in the Sekaiju screeshot.

I thought I attached some sample files. Here is a before and after of the two versions of the first file from the original post, plus the two versions from the reply. scv4-21 new repair 2-01.mid scv4-21 new repair 2-01 cake.mid scv4-21 new repair 2-01 repair.mid scv4-21 new repair 2-01 repair cake.mid

I'm not sure which portion you are referencing, as I haven't used Cakewalk for anything other than adding fades and extending or cropping existing MIDI files. There are defaults in the inspector panel that are there when I load the files up. They are identical between the original file and the opened/saved/closed file. I literally open a file, save it, and close it and it gets messed up. Also, I'm not really sure how Cakewalk is describing the events. Here are screenshots of the event view from a messed up track in Cakewalk vs Sekaiju (a "clean" file, opened, saved, closed, and then opened in both editors' event views). The erroneous instruments do not appear to even show in Cakewalk.

I finished a previous project of 15 MIDI files in mid-August, and going back and checking those now I don't see anything out of the ordinary, so it may be related to one of the most recent updates? EDIT: I reverted to v2002.06, and it did not resolve the issue.

I am working on a project where I need to load a bunch of MIDI files in to Cakewalk one at a time to trim and fade out the ends. I have another piece of software that allows me to see all instruments that are in use in a particular file. Unfortunately, at the "completion" of my project, while making screenshots of the instrument lists, I have discovered that there are instruments present that were not there before Cakewalk had a go at the files, and thus all my finish work has been done on "corrupted" versions of my files. See the following examples. The first screenshot is the "before Cakewalk", while the second is "after Cakewalk". All I did in this case was load the original, then save a copy to grab screenshots. In file 21: 7 extra instruments have been added to channel 1. In file 22: Melodic Tom 2 and Taiko should not exist on Channel 1. Melodic Tom 2 should not exist on Channel 2. Out of 35 total MIDI files, quite a few have been affected this way, though I have yet to go through them all to discover all of the pain. In the final screenshot, you can see extra program changes immediately followed by program changes and a Note On only after the second program change.

Noted above that Apply Trimming did not work. Bounce to clips DID work for my particular issue with these files.

I tried this, and it does not let me split all of the tracks where I need to. Some split, some refuse to split. I just tried this after splitting/deleting the extra, and it seems to have worked! I will have to test it on my other files to make sure it was not just a fluke. I will also try the same doing a slip edit. Thanks!

Hopefully there is a setting somewhere that can be toggled to fix this. I loaded the same file with Anvil Studio (the file in the last screenshot above), and used the "Truncate Song" option, and it cut the end off exactly as expected, and actually shortened a few tracks where the last note ends before the cut. The cut was made at 1:18:07. See the results of Anvil Studio vs the Cakewalk screenshot from above.

I believe many of them do have sustains. It seems to be happening with long notes, which I would think that the "split notes" would take care of. I'll give slip editing a shot and see if that helps. EDIT: Did not help. I dragged the ends to all line up, saved, reloaded and everything was back to how it was. I also tried enabling "Select Controllers Along With Notes" and various options in "Delete Special" with no better results. Splitting, deleting the excess, and then "Apply Trimming" also had no lasting effect.

Any idea how I can stop Cakewalk from extending tracks that I have purposely cut to a certain length? I have some MIDI songs that are longer than they should be. I set the Now marker to where I want it to end. I select all tracks, press S to split, then delete the extra ends off the tracks. Certain files, when I then reload them, have one or more of the tracks extended. See screenshots. They should all be ending at the same time, but they are not. I've edited 10 songs. Four worked perfectly, the other 6 show some signs of extension. It's not really an issue on the first 5, but the last one is getting an extra 5 seconds added back on to the track, and no matter what I have tried, I can't seem to get it to go away. I have "split notes" enabled. I've tried saving, and then re-splitting, and re-deleting the extra at the end, yet it keeps coming back.

So it seems it not really a "problem", just an unanticipated result. I gave the file a good listen, and the audio integrity seems to remain intact, ie no misplaced notes, no sounds that behave improperly as far as I can tell.

I am new to Cakewalk. I am using it for two features: removing some measures from the end of my MIDI files, and adding a 10 second fade out. The first file I've tried it on, which is one of my eventually hundreds of MIDI files in my project, I am able to remove the extra measures, I am able to fade the song as desired. Everything appears normal. I go to File -> Save As, and the resulting MIDI file all of the starts of the tracks are misaligned, with some starting as they should at the beginning, while others are delayed up to 4 seconds. See the attached before and after screenshots. Any idea what might be causing this, and how I can correct it? The original file is created with a game music converter, and then edited with several other utilities along the way, before arriving at this point. No offset issues exist until it is edited with Cakewalk. I cut the end of the song by making a selection using the selection tool, then Ctrl-X. The "Split Notes" option is turned on. Saved, everything appears normal. I add the fade by selecting the last 10 seconds, and the go to Insert -> Series Of Controllers -> 11 Expression, start = 127, end = 0. Everything looks normal pre-save. Then I save, and in Cakewalk it still looks normal, but if I close and reopen, the offsets become visible.