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Availing oneself of the rewards points, of course, requires a Microsoft Account. I have managed to avoid that for all these years. In fact, I believe the method described above (using a 'doctored' Microsoft Win 11 ISO file) will also allow one to skip the tedious Microsoft account requirement. But, if you do have a Microsoft account and are fine with that, then by all means, get your points if you can, and enjoy another year of reprieve. Myself, I just don't care to be getting too cozy with Microsoft.

My DAW is one of these: PC #1: HP EliteDesk 800 G3, Core i7, CPU: 7700 - 7th Gen, Ram: 16 GB. Worried about the end of Win 10 support, I bought this (used): PC #2: HP EliteDesk 800 G3, Core i5 CPU: 9700 - 9th Gen, Ram: 32 GB PC #2 came loaded with Win 11 Pro and "officially" supports it. PC #1 had win 10 Pro from the beginning and does not officially support Win 11. . There are exactly the same computer, except PC #1 has a 7th Gen CPU and PC #2 has a 9th Gen CPU. Rather than move all my DAW software from PC #1 to PC #2, I too did the upgrade from Win 10 Pro to Win 11 Pro on PC #1 using the above described method. It has been working flawlessly for about a year now. I allow every upgrade automatic from Microsoft on both machines. Therefore, PVC#1 is still my DAW and I use PC#2 for pretty much everything else. PC #2 is also my 'insurance' in case Microsoft tries anything cute in the future. The two PC's are stacked on top of each other and I access them through a KVM switch. I'm very happy with it all. I also have another smaller HP computer and an old Toshiba laptop. Both of them are 'incompatible' with Win 11 for he same, singular reason: Microsoft consideres their CPU's to be under-powered. That is nonsense. I have upgraded them too. No problems at all.

You're very welcome. I made a short video and published it to YouTube to hopefully clear up any misunderstandings my clumsy explanation may have caused. Hey! Thanks for the video. I never knew you could link the kick and snare to the flexi channels. Nice.

I'm not sure why all of the AD2 channels "should" be routed to separate SONAR tracks. I've been using AD2 for years, fed by a single MIDI track through a drum map. Although I used to route AD2 channels individually to SONAR tracks, I decided long ago to give the AD2 mixer a chance. It has serious depth which I've found quite adequate for my purposes. Occasionally I will still route out the kick drum signal to duck a bass guitar or something else. But it always seemed redundant to me to have all those AD2 mixer channels each with a volume, pan, mute and endless effects duplicated in SONAR tracks with all their attendant controls and effects. Can you comment on what flexibility this approach may be costing me.

David Baay responded to you in the original post where I'd directed to you (A Question About Sends). He said the following: My guess is you had changed the send to Pre-fader and when you deleted/restored it you got a default Post-fader send that is subject to muting. Are you sure about the PRE and POST state of the sends that you deleted and reinstalled? The above sounds like the answer to me.

Thanks Noel. Yes, there were couple of sends to 'none' left over from when I used another project as a template.

I had a very similar problem a while back. Here's the thread. You may find it useful...

I have a project that displays a 'silent buses detected' message every time I open it and later randomly after I close the message box. But the buss is not silent. It works fine and sounds fine. Always. The whole project seems fine. It's always the same two tracks that are apparently routed to a silent bus. Bass 1 and Bass 2 are routed to a Bass Bus which is routed to my Main bus and on to my interface output. Many other tracks are routed in a similar way. There's never any warnings on those. It's not really a big deal, and I know it's possible to disable the silent bus warning, but it has me a bit concerned.

I now have the answers I was seeking in an email from Cakewalk. They are are below. I started this thread because I couldn't sign in to my account due to an incorrect password and that sent me down a bit of a rat hole (as detailed above). I hadn't changed the password since I got the account and I'm pretty sure I hadn't forgotten it. It seemed as if BandLab had lost track of me, but apparently, all I had to do was change the password. ---------------------- Regarding your questions about renewal: BandLab Membership costs USD $14.95 per month for the monthly plan and USD $99 for the first year on the annual plan, renewing at $149.50 per year after the first year. Your subscription will automatically renew at the interval you selected unless you choose to cancel. There isn’t an option for early renewal, but your plan will stay active until the renewal date.

That doesn’t work. Once you have a subscription you are no longer eligible for the discount. I just went through this back in early July. And exactly a year ago it was the same story and staff said they were going to sort it out but they didn’t. I had to create a new account to get the discount. At the end of June Everybody else was offered the discount of $49 but my renewal was for $149 US which is $205 Canadian. So I bought Studio one instead. Unfortunately they are loosing thousands of users because of this issue with the membership. Thank goodness for the free tier version but I don’t expect that to last forever. Thank you B.G. for detailing your experience. That is helpful to me. I don't have the nerve to cancel and re-subscribe in order to get the $99 US price. I fear that would only create a mess of extra problems. It's risking trouble I don't need. Here's the thing: I like the new SONAR and I'm quite willing to pay for the features available in the subscription version (yep, a Canadian, $205 CD for me too). I simply don't know how to go about renewing for Aug 31st. It is to be automatic? Do I have to let the subscription expire first before being prompted for more money? Is it possible to renew early (in my case, less than a month ahead) to avoid any problems? Do I need to wait until Aug 31 st? Most subscribed software (for example anti-virus) starts notifying you when the subscription is nearing a due date. Is that what BandLab will do?

Okay. I'm back to my paid version and the membership nag stuff has gone away. I had to use the 'forgot password' option to set up a new password which allowed me to access my original account using my original email address. (I'm sure I hadn't forgotten the previous password it seems like BandLab did). And while I was previously trying to log in with Google, I'd generated a new account (a 'free' one) with a new 16-digit user number. Then my SONAR installation immediately switched to the free version. After I signed out from BandLab and re-signed in again with my proper email address the installation reverted to the paid version showing the original 16 digit user number. So that's fixed, although I guess there's an orphaned user ID out there somewhere. All I really wanted to do in the first place was see the state of my account. Now I can. And yes, it expires on Aug 31st. But how and when do I pay for renewal? That is entirely unclear. Is it automatic? And something else: A new user can now buy a year's membership for $99 US. But, when I renew (in a month) it will be $149.50 US. That seems wrong. And there seems to be no provision to renew early. Does everyone with a yearly subscription have to wait until exactly their anniversary date to renew? And how do you renew? Still lots of questions.

It's quite a frustrating experience. When I sign in with Google I get a screen that says I've successfully signed in and that I may now close the window. There are no other options. If I go back to the sign in page and try again I get the option to sign in with my now-listed Google account. Then I get a message that I will be direct to my account but that does not happen. Actually, nothing happens, except the "developer info" pop-up disappears.

Thanks, I shall try that.

I bought a one-year SONAR subscription on Aug 31, 2024. Thus, that subscription is due to expire in 30 days. I tried to sign in to Bandlab to find the status of my account. I found that next to impossible. I tried a regular Bandlab sign with my email and the password (I've kept a record of), but that failed. I then assumed I must have signed in with Google a year ago, so I tried that. That worked but now Bandlab thinks I'm a new member. My installation of SONAR now says I now have a free trial version. I do NOT. I have a PAID subscription. Bandlab seems to have no prior knowledge of me as a customer. And now I've degraded to the free version. Very aggravating...

On August 31, 2024 I used PayPal to purchase a 1- year subscription for SONAR. I had no problem at all. The merchant was "Paddle.com Market Limited" and the emailed receipt came from "BandLab Singapore PTE. LTD" Whatever all that means, my subscription has been working fine these past 10 1/2 months.

Thanks for straightening this out for me David. Much appreciated. - Dan

Speaking specifically about Project Templates, I find that I can create and save project templates but they are never visible to me in the SONAR start screen. The other handful of templates that ship by default with SONAR are displayed but any that I create are not. And yet, I put my templates in the same folder. This one: Cakewalk Content/Cakewalk Core/Project Templates. I can navigate to this folder and load a template, but the start screen refuses to display them. Confusing...

I too am a loyal customer since 1991 (Cakewalk for DOS). It occurred to me last September we will probably never see anything beyond a subscription model for SONAR. I think it's a great program as it stands today and decided go for it. I am not regretful. In my estimation, the subscription isn't more expensive than the cost of upgrading to newer releases every year or 18 months. Admittedly, subscribers are beholden to the company for as long as they use the product and can't opt out without saying goodbye to SONAR forever. But the fact we've both been using the product for well over 30 years strongly suggests we're not the type to jump ship anyway. Of course, I don't make a living as a record producer using SONAR (or anything else). If I did, the considerations would be vastly different.

Wow! A lot has happened since I've been away. Many thanks to everyone who helped get to the bottom of this. Much appreciated. - D

Thanks... Will do. - Daniel

Also, thanks Colin. I wasn't aware 2024.12 was available. I was using 2024.11. I've just updated to 2024.12 but the problem (as shown in my video above) still persists.

If the note pane is open (it doesn't matter how much, as long as it's not completely closed), then the effect disappears. That being the case (like before), the workaround is to just open the note pane slightly. Still, its a bug, and it shouldn't be happening.

I reported a bug last month where, when using a Drum Map, the velocity lane shrunk horizontally when the drum map itself was expanded vertically. That was fixed in the last version, but... now it seems to have returned in a new form. When you click on any existing note (to move it or to sound it), each time you do it , the velocity lane shrinks vertically until it disappears. As before, this does not happen if the midi keyboard lane is open, even a tiny bit. Please see video. Anyone care to confirm? Screen Recording 2024-12-10 132206.mp4

IMHO, moving to another DAW would be an enormous pain. If one is proficient at the many features of CbB, then moving to Cakewalk Sonar is completely painless. I actually found it to be a positive, enjoyable experience. My advice... get a year's subscription and don't look back.

I occasionally have this problem too. I am always able to fix it with Ctrl-Alt-Del and then simply cancelling the "sign-out/change user" window that pops up. When the Sonar screen returns the cursor behaves normally again. Don't ask me why. Magic.