satya Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Just was wondering any thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telecode 101 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 I have both. And I actually use Form and Kontour a lot. I am no expert, but my understanding is they are just GUI front ends to Reaktor backend. My guess is Pigments is more advanced as its newer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 And Pigments gets you free upgrades. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satya Posted December 7, 2023 Author Share Posted December 7, 2023 57 minutes ago, telecode 101 said: I have both. And I actually use Form and Kontour a lot. I am no expert, but my understanding is they are just GUI front ends to Reaktor backend. My guess is Pigments is more advanced as its newer. Yea I watched a YouTube video when V3 was released and he said it's better than FORM , so was just curious how do they compare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telecode 101 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, satya said: Yea I watched a YouTube video when V3 was released and he said it's better than FORM , so was just curious how do they compare whats better and what i like to use vary. pigments obviously has a lot of features and you can really get into the nitty gritty of it. but i like using the Reaktor instruments b/c a) I like the sound of the presets for what i like to do and b) i like the ease of use and usability of tweaking them. I had those reaktor instruments in my DAW for a long time and didn't spend much time with them until last year when I had time to check out the manuals. Kontour is my fav and most used. Form I like. Rounds turned out to be the most versatile and interesting to use. you can really get some pretty crazy results out of it. check out the manual. the problem with pigments for me is it seems like a sound designers tool and i am not yet the type that will go in there and go into sound design to get new sounds. i just need to get synth sounds for the song form structured music i work on. i just need to get sounds that aren't easily and readily heard by others. so tweaking presets to make them original to me is my approach. i could i guess do the same in pigments, but pigments just seems to have so many tabs and options and all kinds of things that are a little overwhelming for casual songwriter type like me. that's why i started to gravitate towards the NI reaktor based instruments. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSteven Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, telecode 101 said: My guess is Pigments is more advanced as its newer. Ah the old fallacy that new is always better... My assumption is that it depends on personal tastes. Edit: just saw you added a new post on this... Edited December 7, 2023 by TheSteven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 New is ALWAYS better. Edith! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Fleer said: New is ALWAYS better Not always, especially when it comes to relationships 😆 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telecode 101 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 15 minutes ago, InstrEd said: Not always, especially when it comes to relationships 😆 wrong. my new ex wife is much better and younger than my old ex wife. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, telecode 101 said: wrong. my new ex wife is much better and younger than my old ex wife. You are a brave soul 🤥 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 So the Granular synth that has an ex-wife patch is the one to get? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satya Posted December 8, 2023 Author Share Posted December 8, 2023 6 hours ago, Fleer said: New is ALWAYS better Me who still uses 32 bit plugs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSteven Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 4 hours ago, InstrEd said: So the Granular synth that has an ex-wife patch is the one to get? If you want it to really have bite, yes. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSMcGuitar Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 6 hours ago, Fleer said: New is ALWAYS better. As long as it's at least 25% off. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Ewing Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) I can do more with the original Alchemy's granular engine than most people can do with everything on the market combined. Has nothing to do with age. Has to do with a) features b) quality of those features c) if you know how to use those features. I would say the same for Absynth, which did more with its granular engine 15+ years than most modern attempts. To solo out Pigments - I would file that synth under "crap". Sounds like crap, looks like a casino app that should make "ding ding ding" sounds when you click on buttons. And there are likely free synths with better granular / sampler engines. Pigments is what happens when a company like Arturia realizes 99% of its customers have no idea what they're doing, are mostly deaf, and will buy anything that has a lot of paid for testimonials and has lots of bright neon colors. It might have the worst sounding filters I've heard in a soft synth since...well...since all the other Arturia synths were released. Not that anyone cares, since Skrillex almost single handidly normalized **** filters with his aural abuse (some might say illegal abuse) of Massive's "worst sounding synth of all time" filters. Really - just get Phase Plant. Edited December 8, 2023 by Carl Ewing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioschmaudio Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Hm. Personally I love Pigments. I'm not a good sound designer myself, but when I use the Photon soundbank by Oblivion Sound Lab, for example, it sounds great to me. And I love the user interface. Not because it uses neon colors (I wouldn't even say it does) but because it's super intuitive. I don't get the casino app association at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 lol didn't even knew form was granular ahahah thks for the thread .... Pad shop is great , or grab something like straiglight from NI (i did to drop my samples in and it's superb) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 They send you a cereal when you purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillmy Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 12 hours ago, Fleer said: They send you a cereal when you purchase. What flavor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 29 minutes ago, Hillmy said: Wheat flavor? Yep 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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