User 905133 1,622 Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) I'm still on the fence, but I might hold out for Syntronik 2.5 (or 3.0) and 6 Osc layers (or maybe ST 4.5 / ST5.0)! 😜 Although until the newer versions or updated bundles come along, SYN2GB would provide me with more long-term gratification than the same amount of money spent on groceries. 😃 Adding Wave Set layers to the new instrument presets for my 22 Syntronik synths has been personally rewarding. SYN2GB is sooooooooooo tempting! BTW, can someone with any of the 11 new instruments who has ST4 do me a favor and let me know (a) how many oscillator layers the presets have, (b) how many are selectable, and (c) which instruments (if any) allow access to more than 2? With the limited presets in CS, I see 6 osc layers with some of the new synths, but only the first 2 are selectable. If a number of the 11 new instruments access 6 osc layers of Wave Sets, I will be a participant in the SYN2GB after I go through my account and pay my monthly bills. Edited May 3, 2022 by User 905133 to update the request for info re: osc layers accessible with ST4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
telecode 101 1,822 Posted May 3, 2022 20 minutes ago, User 905133 said: I'm still on the fence, but I might hold out for Syntronik 2.5 (or 3.0) and 6 Osc layers (or maybe ST 4.5 / ST5.0)! This is a really interesting strategy. To be honest, I use MODO Bass and MODO Drums much more and holding out for some sort of GB which includes upgrades to those 2 and 1.5 of each would be a better investment. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cclarry 30,556 Posted May 3, 2022 1 away from the Next FREEBIE! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abacab 7,711 Posted May 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, User 905133 said: BTW, can someone with any of the 11 new instruments who has ST4 do me a favor and let me know (a) how many oscillator layers the presets have, (b) how many are selectable, and (c) which instruments (if any) allow access to more than 2? With the limited presets in CS, I see 6 osc layers with some of the new synths, but only the first 2 are selectable. The number of oscillator layers viewed from ST4 appears to be totally random, based on the preset, not on any particular new instrument. For example, some presets might have have none, while others may have 2, 3, or 4. But randomly checking, none had a total of 5 or 6. Which makes sense, because the v2 presets are programmed with 4 oscillators. But no way to access the wave sets from the ST4 GUI. Probably best to edit and save your own presets in the Syntronik 2 editor, then recall them in your ST4 mix. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
User 905133 1,622 Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, abacab said: The number of oscillator layers viewed from ST4 appears to be totally random, based on the preset, not on any particular new instrument. For example, some presets might have have none, while others may have 2, 3, or 4. But randomly checking, none had a total of 5 or 6. Which makes sense, because the v2 presets are programmed with 4 oscillators. But no way to access the wave sets from the ST4 GUI. Probably best to edit and save your own presets in the Syntronik 2 editor, then recall them in your ST4 mix. Thanks for checking and for reporting your results! I found one CS Synth where two of the three presets had 6 buttons. I had a different CS Instrument that crashed/shut down ST4 when loading the preset. It had 6 buttons once I rebooted ST4! Random, based on the preset, or QA issue, installation issue? All bets are off! 🤪 Yes, I saw there was no way presently to access the wave sets from the ST4 UI, but I had fun with some of the layer controls that are available--esp. pitch/fine tuning as a preset thickening agent!!! I am now no longer inclined to think the 6 buttons is a glitch of some sort. Again, thanks for the feedback. Edited May 3, 2022 by User 905133 "now" changed to "no longer" based on abacab's additional feedback Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abacab 7,711 Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, User 905133 said: I am now no longer inclined to think the 6 buttons is a glitch of some sort. Again, thanks for the feedback. From the presets that I observed which had buttons available, all 6 buttons were always present, but never more than 4 were active, i.e., the rest of them were always grayed out. Edited May 3, 2022 by abacab 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abacab 7,711 Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) Running SampleTank 4 MAX 4.1.7 (2022-03-03) here. Release notes are available in your IK "My Products". Fyi: 2021-12-16 What's New in v4.1.6 - Additional Syntronik 2 instrument compatibility enhancements Edited May 3, 2022 by abacab 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Walton 2,052 Posted May 3, 2022 1 hour ago, telecode 101 said: This is a really interesting strategy. To be honest, I use MODO Bass and MODO Drums much more and holding out for some sort of GB which includes upgrades to those 2 and 1.5 of each would be a better investment. I also would have preferred a GB related to upgrades of both of those as I use the MODO lineup but basically haven't used Syntronik at all. Your post is a good reality check. Wonder if I'll cave into temptation on this deal. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cclarry 30,556 Posted May 3, 2022 Another freebie arrives! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cclarry 30,556 Posted May 3, 2022 But it's not in my account? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InstrEd 4,374 Posted May 3, 2022 Just now, cclarry said: But it's not in my account? Impatient is our King 🤴 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abacab 7,711 Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, cclarry said: But it's not in my account? Me too! IK must have a lag in the promotions updates... 😢 But on the bright side, this gives me a few more minutes to decide which classic synth to upgrade next... Edited May 3, 2022 by abacab 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doug Rintoul 1,606 Posted May 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, abacab said: Me too! IK must have a lag in the promotions updates... 😢 But on the bright side, this gives me a few more minutes to decide which classic synth to upgrade next... Me three. Come on IKM, get yo axe together. Just kidding. I am sure it will appear eventually. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doug Rintoul 1,606 Posted May 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, abacab said: Not yet... Maybe it will happen when the counter gets updated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
makouto 17 Posted May 3, 2022 Check your accounts, it's ok for me now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacques Boileau 1,298 Posted May 3, 2022 1 hour ago, cclarry said: But it's not in my account? Big surprise: Larry is faster than IK! 😁 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abacab 7,711 Posted May 3, 2022 Mine just showed up! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abacab 7,711 Posted May 3, 2022 Got the Syntronik 2 Blau upgrade! PPG Wave goodness. Yeah, baby!!! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doug Rintoul 1,606 Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) I am sleepy. I am going to follow abacab and just get everything he gets. Edited May 3, 2022 by Doug Rintoul 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites