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Being as there is no actual support forum for people having technical problems, I guess this is a better place than any.

OK, I'm faced with the biggest ever problem that can happen with a musician, a VSTi, and a DAW (primarily Cakewalk by bandlab), imagine this, if I were to have a synth that produced the exact sound I wanted and plugged its audio out into the computer, Cakewalk would record not just the audio, but any effects too, such as reverb, or sustain, so that after playing a note and releasing the keys, the recording would still continue and record the sustained reverb until it fades out, now here's the huge dilemma, when using a MIDI instrument, a VSTi, and Cakewalk, the recording does not record any trailing decays, so if I'm holding a chord such as F, while recording, the VSTi generates the sound along with some reverb, but when I release the chord, and even though the recording continues, the notes stop dead, and as a result playing it back, doesn't have that fading reverb at the end, the sound just stops dead, I can't add reverb to the track after recording, because the sound from the VSTi already has it and it'll be way too much, is this a quirk with VSTi's and DAW's or is it something that can be fixed?

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50 minutes ago, usalabs said:

Being as there is no actual support forum for people having technical problems, I guess this is a better place than any.

 

No?

What's this here then?

And if you need support from the company there's always:
https://help.cakewalk.com/

Anyway, your "problem" isn't a technical issue, its user error. You have to extend the length of your project to accommodate the reverb tail.

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Which VSTi are you using? The sound stopping is probably a setting in the VSTi. Read about ADSR. The “S” sustain and “R” release settings control how long the note plays after you release the keys. 

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Not sure about your exact issue but what i would do is keep recording longer than you want then put a volume envelope on the extra length you recorded and fade it down where i want it to end. 

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As everyone has already said, this is not a technical issue this is simply understanding how midi works. MIDI is data, The VTI needs the correct data to behave the way the musician wants it to sound. You end the data, the sound stops. You'd also be complaining if this didn't happen, right? If you play a MIDI controller the sound you hear while playing is usually recorded very acuratly, but if you change to a different patch ( instrument) that MIDI data you recorded might not control that particular instrument the same way it did for the original. So editing is a good skill to learn. 

You add a CC64 ( sustain) event so the chord continues. Or just drag the note(s) out longer in PVR.

The reverb tail issue is well known and probably 1,000 threads about it on the forums for all DAW's. In Cakewalk , just slip edit the end of the track as long as you need. 

Here's a list of the MIDI CC events. 

https://anotherproducer.com/online-tools-for-musicians/midi-cc-list/

Here's a few of my MIDI tutorials, there's lots more from me an many other creators in the Tutorial sub forum. 

12-Midi TRacks https://youtu.be/ua8yq5z-e_M
13-Instrument Tracks https://youtu.be/PXn5vVaJhcw
14-Midi Editing PVR   https://youtu.be/nOVjbk2nHqI

 

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