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I have a pair of Avantone mono's.
I really fight with try to mix totally on those and then move over to my Focal Trio's.
I just never seem to stick with it.

I am sure if a mix sounds good on the Avantones it will sound brilliant on the Trio's.

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trying using only a single Avantone with the master in mono. i also go back and forth between the single cube and  the stereo monitors + sub. then a pass on the Bose 901 for the brutal truth test 🙂 and then repeat 🙂 

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9 hours ago, Hidden Symmetry said:

find mixing on my mono cube more gratifying

Is it the response of the "mono cube" itself, or just the act of mixing in mono?

t

(sorry to hijack your thread Baps, or Am I?)

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I'm mixing reverbs a little too heavy on headphones. I think it may because I'm older and mixing louder - plus the proximity is somehow drowning out the verb wash. I'm checking against other environments and find myself saying little things like  :  " What the hell was I thinking? " and  " You complete Dufus "  you know-  little constructive criticisms like that. 

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I'm finding the same thing. Mixing on headphones and then, when "done", listening on my studio monitors and mono on the Avantones.  Reverb is really exposed on the Avantones.

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On 3/21/2021 at 9:21 PM, DeeringAmps said:

Is it the response of the "mono cube" itself, or just the act of mixing in mono?

t

(sorry to hijack your thread Baps, or Am I?)


Sorry Tom, I missed this... actually it's  a bit of both I suppose.

 

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Update: I forgot to mention in my OP that I also have (from the mid 80s, and still working) 2 each AKG K240 and 1 AKG K270.

I have since added Status CD1,  Slate's headphone system and a Massdrop HD-6xx (650s).

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On 3/9/2021 at 11:05 PM, Will_Kaydo said:

I personally LOVE the AKG 712 pro Studio Reference Monitor Headphones. It's a bit more pricier though.

For me the $349.97 price tag at Amazon is less than what I pad for my HD600s ($399 at Sweetwater) but a bit pricier than my HD6xx (650s, $229 from Massdrop).

I might just pick the AKG 712 and do a deep dive comparison between those and my HD600s and HD650s. I can always return the 712s if I don't see any gret difference than the Sennheiser's.

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Or maybe I'll just get these:

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Well, that makes sense. Where else are you going to spend all those BJZ/FM/CHB royalties?

btw, my favorite setup for final critical listening is a pair of HD650's, but they did not reveal their true potential until I bought a headphone amp for them. Hi-Z, ya know. They're a nice complement to my main speakers, so any time I'm happy with how both sound it raises confidence in the mix.

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I find the Slate VSX very good.
really pleased with the system.

I could not justify a $4000 plus headphones as I have excellent monitors and the Avantones.
The Slate model of the Avantones is spot on too.

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had the AKG 712's and another AKG, don't remember the model.

incredible mid/high freq detail and beautiful width, couldn't hear any bass though (could be me}.

Seen comments AKG have quite a midrange boost and are nowhere 'flat' as fe HD600.

I can't mix on headphones though (neither on speakers)

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I’ve been mixing with the earbuds that came with the phone I listen to music in (Best thing that has happened to my mixes)

Obviously check on as many other speaker systems as possible before you consider it done, but this approach saves me a lot of time. 

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i have found that mixing on earbuds will absolutely NOT translate to a full range loudspeaker system.

they're great for checking mixes on, though

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I have a set of AKG K240 Studios that I bought several months ago at the recommendation from folks here. These are relatively inexpensive headphones, essentially identical to K 240 Mk II's which sell for about twice as much. They're open back and very comfortable, and when I'm wearing them,  it feels like I don't have any 'phones on at all, and that I'm just leaning in closer to my monitors to catch the minute details. But still, I don't do heavy mixing with them. I use them to check mixes, yes, but I prefer mixing with my studio monitors -- mostly because I have a subwoofer in my system and the AKGs can't pick up the really low bass frequencies that the subwoofer generates. Well, you hear them, but the cans lack any sort of *oomph*.

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i check mixes with those same k240II's for a few years,

but when i moved up to a set of Sennheiser Hd 580's, it was a BIG difference.

 

for the money, the MASSDROP models are the way to go.

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