Linux Daws Are The Best Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 (edited) On 3/8/2022 at 12:47 PM, Tony Carpenter said: Lol at necroing old threads. Anyway, I’ll jump in Jim mentioned already, while I do run an Uber PC for my studio and still think Core Audio in OSX is far superior, windows 10 does the business very well. I ran a BBS in the early 90s and ran it on Linux beta testing for Linus in the beta days. I also ran it for my Neverwinter Nights server for a while around 2002-2004. Is It really mainstream yet?. He’ll no!, not for everyone by a long shot. It’s a professional and geeks platform, very small share, end of story. Good luck to you if you want to play with it :). Well things have changed a lot, I run many Linux distros on even raspberry pi SBC 's and the Reaper Daw runs on them all, I had to uninstall windows on the three latest laptops I bought, the fans never shut off even when under light loads, installed Linux, totally different result, Installed Waveform no problem, Reaper no problem. Steinberg UR22 works even on the arm based raspberry Pi 's and my new SSL 12 usb interface also runs on all my linux computers, not a single driver to install. Wish Cakewalk Daw would run directly on Linux, great Daw. Edited June 19, 2023 by Whinbush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwal³ Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 On 2/9/2023 at 8:48 PM, craigb said: Except that it was used to run all the most popular game servers back in the day! PLAYING games rather than serving them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwal³ Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 On 2/9/2023 at 5:48 PM, abacab said: I even tried using Ubuntu/Mint as my daily driver desktop PC for a couple of years (but not for my DAW). Finally went back to Windows. I love Windows 10 for my personal desktop PC! me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linux Daws Are The Best Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, pwalpwal said: me too I ditched Ubuntu, I find Lubuntu and MX Linux to be very light and fast in comparison. There is even a version of Linux based on MX specifically for music creators, I don't even go that far, the standard versions work fine for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 40 minutes ago, Whinbush said: Linux is no longer an underdog in music creation circles and is much much better than the current Windows offerings, which are absolutely terrible. Windows is a complete mess, updates all the time, breaks all sorts of functionality, it is nothing short of a night mare. My experience with windows of late has been due to my daughter becoming interested in music, she plays piano, sings and wanted me to help her set up her computer, she was always a mac user up until lately when she decided to use windows, this decision came about due to her macbook air M1 lasting no time, it just made it outside warranty and required a new logic board at half the price of the original, so she bought a Dell. Setting up and navigating around windows is a mess compared to how straight forward the mac was, and Linux is just as easy as the mac given all the flavours and layouts now available in Linux. She got herself an SSL12 usb interface, and pianoteq, both of which work in Linux, and are very easy to set up, the SSL does not even require drivers to be installed, I let my daughter install everything herself on her windows laptop so she would understand how it all comes together, it was not a straightforward task at all. I have left her to figure out how to disable the onboard microphone as every time we do as soon as we reboot it is back on again, it is also so sensitive / spy ware capable it can hear anyone speaking in any room in the house, it clips with us whispering it is so sensitive, no such trouble on Linux, Linux is more than ready for music production, and is also what a lot of users that are into free software use, those users were also looking forward to seeing Cakewalk on Linux, I for one would pay for it, we have Reaper, it would be so so good to have Cakewalk Daw available on Linux. Lots of people are ditching apple, if you do not know, look how apple have downgraded the M2 chip in comparison to the M1, says it all, they do not give a dam about their customers, its all about the money, google it, apple used to provide a solid product, those days are no more, so if people jump to intel based computers, and discover the mess windows is, their next step will be Linux, and no Cakewalk available is an absolute marketing disaster, apple and windows are pushing people over to Linux because of the crap hardware one produces and the crap OS the other pushes, you could not dream this up, I think when the people behind this great Daw look back they will see it too, the lost revenue this mistake will cost will go down in history, its the perfect time for Cakewalk to support Linux, believe it or not. It is amazing that I can now give a Linux laptop to a young girl, and look on as she can navigate and use it to create music with half the effort and none of the hassle she has had with mac and windows, I hope the people behind Cakewalk get themselves a laptop with Linux and have a go, using Reaper, it will be the best thing you ever did for Cakewalk and the growing home and pro recording industry, seriously, try it. Again, I would buy Cakewalk if it were available for Linux, as it is Reaper is the king on Linux, its priced well, and it just works, why not Cakewalk, I have tried Ardour, its not for me, it could also end in the morning, not enough invested in it and no real long term plans as I see it, unlike Cakewalk, which is a true survivor. Anyway, I hope I have not upset anyone, this is just my experience, and that of my daughter who is not new to computers but new to music recording, even she sees it, I am not a poster, I actually only signed up here and this is my first post, and all because I see the potential for Cakewalk on Linux as a game changer and can not believe the marketing people behind Cakewalk can not, truly mind numbing. Kind regards to all, I shall live in hope that one day Cakewalk will be available on Linux.Linux is no longer an underdog in music creation circles and is much much better than the current Windows offerings, which are absolutely terrible. Windows is a complete mess, updates all the time, breaks all sorts of functionality, it is nothing short of a night mare. My experience with windows of late has been due to my daughter becoming interested in music, she plays piano, sings and wanted me to help her set up her computer, she was always a mac user up until lately when she decided to use windows, this decision came about due to her macbook air M1 lasting no time, it just made it outside warranty and required a new logic board at half the price of the original, so she bought a Dell. Setting up and navigating around windows is a mess compared to how straight forward the mac was, and Linux is just as easy as the mac given all the flavours and layouts now available in Linux. She got herself an SSL12 usb interface, and pianoteq, both of which work in Linux, and are very easy to set up, the SSL does not even require drivers to be installed, I let my daughter install everything herself on her windows laptop so she would understand how it all comes together, it was not a straightforward task at all. I have left her to figure out how to disable the onboard microphone as every time we do as soon as we reboot it is back on again, it is also so sensitive / spy ware capable it can hear anyone speaking in any room in the house, it clips with us whispering it is so sensitive, no such trouble on Linux, Linux is more than ready for music production, and is also what a lot of users that are into free software use, those users were also looking forward to seeing Cakewalk on Linux, I for one would pay for it, we have Reaper, it would be so so good to have Cakewalk Daw available on Linux. Lots of people are ditching apple, if you do not know, look how apple have downgraded the M2 chip in comparison to the M1, says it all, they do not give a dam about their customers, its all about the money, google it, apple used to provide a solid product, those days are no more, so if people jump to intel based computers, and discover the mess windows is, their next step will be Linux, and no Cakewalk available is an absolute marketing disaster, apple and windows are pushing people over to Linux because of the crap hardware one produces and the crap OS the other pushes, you could not dream this up, I think when the people behind this great Daw look back they will see it too, the lost revenue this mistake will cost will go down in history, its the perfect time for Cakewalk to support Linux, believe it or not. It is amazing that I can now give a Linux laptop to a young girl, and look on as she can navigate and use it to create music with half the effort and none of the hassle she has had with mac and windows, I hope the people behind Cakewalk get themselves a laptop with Linux and have a go, using Reaper, it will be the best thing you ever did for Cakewalk and the growing home and pro recording industry, seriously, try it. Again, I would buy Cakewalk if it were available for Linux, as it is Reaper is the king on Linux, its priced well, and it just works, why not Cakewalk, I have tried Ardour, its not for me, it could also end in the morning, not enough invested in it and no real long term plans as I see it, unlike Cakewalk, which is a true survivor. Anyway, I hope I have not upset anyone, this is just my experience, and that of my daughter who is not new to computers but new to music recording, even she sees it, I am not a poster, I actually only signed up here and this is my first post, and all because I see the potential for Cakewalk on Linux as a game changer and can not believe the marketing people behind Cakewalk can not, truly mind numbing. Kind regards to all, I shall live in hope that one day Cakewalk will be available on Linux. Paragraphs are a thing.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno de Souza Lino Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 On 3/7/2022 at 4:05 PM, Jim Roseberry said: A Linux based DAW is decades behind in infrastructure/development/support/etc. REAPER, Bitwig and Waveform have the exact same codebase and features on Linux and Windows, so who knows where that statement came from. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linux Daws Are The Best Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 11 minutes ago, Bruno de Souza Lino said: REAPER, Bitwig and Waveform have the exact same codebase and features on Linux and Windows, so who knows where that statement came from. And even on Arm based raspberry Pi 's, I run Reaper, there are people who do, and those who am sure now will not do, if they wake up and make Cakewalk available on Linux, am in, otherwise my money will go elsewhere, hope the management read this, money is going elsewhere because your not listening and have read the market all wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linux Daws Are The Best Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Pipewire is now functioning, but I will admit this is not for the newbie to linux, great results though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Roseberry Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Bruno de Souza Lino said: REAPER, Bitwig and Waveform have the exact same codebase and features on Linux and Windows, so who knows where that statement came from. I'm not going to waste substantial time/energy arguing a point that's extremely obvious. Windows has a 30-year leap on Linux as a DAW platform. Why would anyone want migrate to a limited number of supported audio interfaces, a limited number of plugins, a very limited number of DAW application choices, a platform where they essentially are left fending for themselves (no real support), etc. None of the major DAW app and plugin developers are developing for Linux. It's not hard to understand... nor understand why (ridiculously small niche market, no profit). Linux DAWs are a "solution" to a problem that doesn't exist. Edited June 19, 2023 by Jim Roseberry 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno de Souza Lino Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, Jim Roseberry said: Why would anyone want migrate to a limited number of supported audio interfaces, a limited number of plugins, a very limited number of DAW application choices, a platform where they essentially are left fending for themselves (no real support), etc. They don't have to. Plus a good portion of audio interfaces in the market suddenly become supported by Linux simply because they have to work on mobile devices and, you can't install drivers on those either. The same goes for MIDI devices. 15 minutes ago, Jim Roseberry said: None of the major DAW app and plugin developers are developing for Linux. Bitwig has a DAW which has a native Linux version as well as Cockos, Tracktion and Harrison. uhe has all their plugins in Linux Native versions. Plus there's the new CLAP format, which has native Linux support as well. 18 minutes ago, Jim Roseberry said: It's not hard to understand... nor understand why (ridiculously small niche market, no profit). It's very easy to spread FUD as well. 20 minutes ago, Jim Roseberry said: Linux DAWs are a "solution" to a problem that doesn't exist. It may not exist for you, but it exists for other people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyjx Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 I continually pause Windows Updates and do them quarterly, along with any program updates/authorizations (hotfixes I apply when released). I at least do a monthly OS image and back up Cake projects on a secondary drive. My DAW has been working like a CHAMP for YEARS doing this! I also use quality components and remove any programs I do not need and stay off the internet except for updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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