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  1. This video series is helping some. Yikes, this stuff is complicated.
  2. I just bought the Fab Filter L2 plugin ( was using the old L filter) and it has a setting for -14db for "streaming". Well, I have always mixed my final output to where when limited it would be just under the brick wall threshold so CbB would not produce any vertical orange bars. In other words, the waveform preview would fit the entire envelope in the Cakewalk master track bus. It seems that this is too high for what is necessary on the web for streaming. I hear that streaming services just lower it if necessary to -14db. When I set the output level to a lower level then the limiter does not kick in at all. I am now completely confused. If you need more info I will be here to discuss this topic more. Thanks in advance for any suggestions or tips. How do I get the limiter to kick in and even out the peaks while still keeping the total gain around -14db? My PC will run 32bit oversampling without even breaking out a sweat. I have a music song loop track that I got off audio blocks and I am trying to attenuate loud and soft sections so it has a perfectly flat response. I tried the stock compressors in the the pro channel and I tried the Waves stereo Vocal Rider and I tried CA-2A and set it to limiter. When I look at the waveform in the CbB master bus in the Fab Filter plugin it keeps jumping in volume at the same point no matter what I do. I only have that track playing. Am I missing something here like relative gain versus something else? I used to have a specific way of mastering and now it all seems confused with this new plugin approach. I am watching YouTube videos but this Fab Filter L2 plugin is so new there are not many tutorials on it. I need to read the manual I guess. Please kindly contribute any advice you can to help me possibly understand how this relates to Cakewalk's optimal output level for exporting files. Thanks.
  3. RexRed

    Excluded Plugins

    Does Cakewalk use more resources to exclude plugins?
  4. RexRed

    Occasional Lockups in Cakewalk

    Okay the dump file is 4 GB, I can create a zip file and I can place this in a shared One Drive folder. Please let me know the email address to share the One Drive folder to. Thx
  5. RexRed

    Occasional Lockups in Cakewalk

    I have the latest versions of Melodyne Studio and CBB. Cakewalk has been locking up like this for years so your idea about it being a plugin is probably correct, I have tons of them installed. I am wondering if it is a plugin from X3 that perhaps is no longer compatible or another 3rd party plugin perhaps a 32bit plugin? Will a dump file tell you which module or plugin caused the lock up or is it sometime too vague to find out exactly what caused it? I will create and send a dump file within a zip file. When should I create the dump file after a lock up or can I create it anytime? Will it keep a long history of past lock-ups? Where do I send the dump file? Thanks in advance for your help Noel.
  6. RexRed

    Good news for V-Vocal users

    I used to be a hardcore V-Vocal fan but Melodyne Editor (Essential is nearly useless) won me over and I eventually bought Melodyne Studio when it went on a major sale. I work with a lot of harmonies and being able to have my blobs in the same editor window is an absolute necessity. I found myself editing and re-editing lines in V-Vocal over and over rather than getting them right and being able to leave them. I have had trouble with the lack of ability to "draw" pitch lines in Melodyne but now I use a two pronged strategy. I get the pitch as close as I can in Melodyne using mostly the auto align and then the pitch drift tool and then I use the real-time pitch correction in Izotope Nectar (not full strength). Together these work perfectly and place the pitch granularly where it needs to be.
  7. I am not writing this as an outright criticism of Cakewalk just to get feedback from others who may experience this same thing. I would never even dream of using another DAW than Cakewalk. Every project I make has occasional lockups where the Cakewalk program will stop responding. I also have experienced program lockups in Studio One so this in not specific to Cakewalk. But I do not experience the same lockups ever in Adobe Premiere when I am working with both audio and video. Premiere may freeze and halt for a moment but it always comes back. But in Premiere I am usually only using one or two audio tracks. When Cakewalk locks-up, I have to restart it and unplug my audio interface a plug it back in several times until Cakewalk can detect it again. First off, is this something others experience also? I have an Intel I9 12 core CPU with a fully updated version of Windows 10 and an Nvida 1080ti graphics card. This lockup problem has occurred for many years on many different systems I have used with other audio interfaces also. My current audio interface is a Roland quad capture. Lately it is usually when I am working with Melodyne studio when the program locks up. It is when I try and overlap Melodyne takes in the same track which is apparently a big no no. I have often speculated as to why this occurs. Though the lockups can occur simply editing a midi track also. I have sometimes thought it is a latency problem. It seems to happen when I have latency set really low. But it can happen when latency is high also. Latency might explain why it also happens in Studio One. This makes me think that maybe I might need a USB 3.0 audio interface and that might correct this problem. It is always my audio interface that seems to go kaput. Cakewalk "always" loses connection to my AI when the lockups occur. Am I overloading my USB bus? But these lockups also happened when I had an Emu 1820M and X3 with an internal sound card... These lockups have been happening for many years with other PC computer systems and older OS also. I have also wondered if the lockups have been occurring because of a problem with the way history saves previous edits. The lockups seem to happen when I have not saved my work for a while so I lose a lot of progress. But they can happen when I do not have a long history also. It could be a Windows problem and that is why it happened with Studio One... But this would have to be a very old Windows problem perhaps something to do with ASIO. In order for it to be a history problem Studio One would have to have the same history architecture as Cakewalk and maybe that is because both programs are borrowing from a basic Windows history routine where Premiere seems to have come out of the Mac world. I really don't know, but I would love to get this stabilized somehow. Is there someone out there who uses Cakewalk a lot on large projects and does not have Cakewalk lockups? Ever? Let me know your own thoughts on this, thanks.
  8. RexRed

    Once Upon A Time

    New song peeps! Ever experimenting with new genres. Best to you all! RR
  9. RexRed

    I Hold You Tight Ft Chad Erican

    Thank for the awesome comments peeps! We were aiming for an Everly Brothers type of thing. I thanks for the tips too, I will work on the mix a bit more soon! Best to you all!
  10. RexRed

    I Hold You Tight Ft Chad Erican

    Yea, I have been using Cakewalk since MS-DOS lol
  11. Here is a video I just made with Cakewalk By Bandlab and correlation trace using Izotope's Ozone 8 imager. Sorry about the audio problem I was having, my song sounds like it is in a can. I had two audio sources coming from my DAW into my recording mixer. It is only there when I play my song. The information though about correlation trace is still there. Any comments on this video are welcome. Sometime later today YouTube will be done processing the video and it will be in 4K. Cakewalk By Bandlab Correlation Trace Ozone 8 RexRed
  12. Hello Mscleod, thanks for your comment. You have to look at the patches through a correlation trace and you will notice that most of them hover directly on top of the center line. Many of the strings, the pianos, the Hammond patch, the pad "as quiet as possible", French horn... nearly all of them are that way. I will make a YouTube video showing the trace and how it displays them, and how I correct them. I will post a link here soon.
  13. RexRed

    Let us into your BandLab Audio LAB...

    Nvidia 1080ti, with 12 core Intel I9 PC, w/3000mhz RAM (and tons of hard drive space) sitting on the floor, Kustom speakers, (1) 4k Sceptre monitor (1) 4k TLC Roku TV and one standard def Acer monitor, M-Audio Oxygen 49 keyboard controller, Elgato Stream Deck, Logitech BRIO webcam and Logitech C920 webcam, Panasonic HC-X1000 60p 4k camcorder, Epson Tank 2550 printer, Nokia phone (taking the picture) and Samsung tablet, Audio-Technica AT2035 large-diaphragm condenser microphone, Roland Quad-Capture audio interface. (12 stringed instruments in the closet) My latest song.
  14. I thought I would bring this subject up to help CBB people who (like me) use a lot of Dimension pro presets in their music. One day I was listening to one of my songs on a phone speaker and noticed that the song sounded bare and had hardly any music with the voice. This was when I discovered that my favorite Dimension Pro pad had completely canceled itself out when the song was played in mono. Then I discovered that nearly all Dimension Pro presets are not tuned properly in phase, someone here in a blog (I think it was Craig Anderton) said something to the effect that the presets are put out of phase to make them appear to sound better (wider). Well, this can lead to many problems down the road when using them in your "radio ready" song. I use the correlation trace feature in Izotope Ozone 8 on each and every track to make sure that they are in proper phase. Otherwise your track can completely disappear when played in mono situations. Also, my ears have become trained to prefer sources that are in phase, when they are out of phase they sometimes seem hot and aurally "excited" and appealing but they do not fit into a mix properly. A track should always have its correlation trace corrected not only for mono purposes but also for getting the song landscape to meld together in a more focused way. Nearly every Dimension Pro preset is out of phase and needs to have its correlation trace phase corrected. In other words out of the box they are unuseable in production without correcting their phase. Otherwise you may find yourself in the situation i found myself in where your instruments simply disappear when played in certain playback configurations. Also the correlation trace is necessary to give mono vocals and bass guitar some width in the mix. Both vocal and bass both often appear as a sharp spike up the center in the stereo field. You should always cut the width out of the bass frequency range but it is okay to add a little widening in the treble ranges in both the bass and the lead vocal. This helps fill out the center of your mix so there is not a huge hole in the center of your sound landscape with the vocal huddled sharply in the center. It also helps the vocal nestle into the mix better. Please let me know if you agree or disagree with what I have written here. I am interested in other opinions on this topic.
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