Michael Fogarty

On 9/21/2021 at 12:03 AM, treesha said:

IIRC  I have had it happen a few times that on export I didn’t notice the 64 was being used and when I went to import that exported file into something else I use (don’t recall which program) I got a message basically the other program couldn’t import it. So I went back to the cakewalk export box and changed from 64 to 32 or 24 (?) and it worked fine in the next program.

are we talking about about the same thing here? I thought I was completely understanding until I read this post. The thread is about the 64bit precision engine toggle being checked, different from the audio driver bit depth export options box where you can choose 16,24, etc. The 64 bit precision engine box is a toggle on and off switch just to the right of the  Audio Driver bit depth  up/down arrow pull down menu.

14 hours ago, Scott Kendrick said:

I have a similar issue with TD25 midi capture... but I'm also trying to go the route of just clean up (because i don't want to record). Dedup.cal is the way I want to go, but sometimes it misses dupes, and other times, it is deleting notes that aren't dupes, killing my track. Any one know why it doesn't work? (sorry, hopefully not hijacking the thread - just trying to solve the same issue post capture).

assuming you checked under the VST properties that it is not sending enable midi out. Also, did you try what I mentioned above. The place where there are double notes, try deleting the data and see if there were indeed two performances - this worked for me every time. How it got the two performances I don't know. Linking the tracks when copying wouldn't do that would it? After trying dedup, I looked up if there wer issues and it seems it doesn't work for most people.

in my case, I have double notes on the same track. Tried undup cal - doesn't work. So the reason this happens is that I had local control on by accident (cakewalk automatically shuts it off but I may have turned it on to practice on the controller)?

How do you get rid of them outside of re-recording? In my case (edit) I opened the track lane and there was only one track so I thought it was ok. But I deleted it as a test and one remained. So I possibly copied over somehow? Interesting it doesn't go to another lane but doubles the lane that is there. One would never know.  Anyway, I am good here but would love to avoid it happening in the future. 

On 8/15/2021 at 9:09 PM, Promidi said:

This is why I include the C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3 folder in a regular backup regime.

hello again. Could you expound on that a little or put a url? Very interested.

Yes, I have digital out of DP88 into digital in of interface and vice versa. I have the DP88 as the master as it seems that is suggested with these interfaces (RME Babyface/MOTU Ultralite MK4) as they have no clock? I tried with the interface as the master and no and exactly the same results. On the Motu I have complete silence with intermittent spikes (fills the .wav) and with the Babyface a constance light crackle. Anything else I can try? The DP88 has lovely pre-amps and wanting to recording organ with Leslie.

On 8/14/2021 at 11:02 PM, Wookiee said:

Michael I have had a little play with this in Soundforge 15 using Cakewalks LP EQ to me it benefits from a little lift in the 2k to 3K. As SPAN reveal quite a dip in that region.

I did enjoy the composition and overall vibe of the track.

thank you. Will check it out.

On 8/14/2021 at 10:40 PM, mark skinner said:

Michael , I Really liked the walking bass , it sounded Great.  I did think the piano could be a little brighter and less quantized.  Overall Very good composition .  Enjoyed it ..    mark

Hey there. That is a real harp played in real time with no adjustments. She will be flattered you said less quantized. Guess her timing is pretty good. 

Jim, I'm back. Trying to use my DP88 with my MOTU Ultralite Mk4 and setting it up like you, but getting pops. Upon further research, it seems the AVB MOTU units don't have word clock. Does that mean if I want to use it (or with my Babyface (not pro - the old one) I would have to set the DP88 to internal and the Interface (MOTU or Babyface) to sync?

PS -tried it and it works. No pops. Amazing.

PSS -tried it again and the pops are back. Hmm.

PSSS - I need to be using two digital cables right? One for the MOTU out to the DP88 in and one from the DP88 out to the MOTU in?

PSSSS -am going to try the Babyface now. Have found no solutions sfor the MOTU.

PSSSST-the Babyface works. No outstanding Pops -spikes. But noisy floor. 

disable all other audio devices and speakers in your system - be it NVIDIA Graphic Audio, Computer audio (Realtek) in Control Panel and do as John Vere above said. By computer speakers do you mean the ones inside your laptop, or desktop the one in your computer monitor? Or stand alone speakers? I know with my laptop I use my Babyface and if I take it downstairs to use for some reason I have to enable, disable. But its the way to go.

7 hours ago, DallasSteve said:

Michael

Are you saying you will process it further with Assistant to show me what it will do?  That's a generous offer, if I understood correctly.  Did you have to pay full price or do they offer discounts sometimes?  Should I get on their mailing list?

 

hi there. Yes, I said that. Sorry we are in different time zones (I live in Tokyo) so I couldn’t answer sooner. Good to hear you found the results you wanted. I suggest you send me the following:

1. A SMF (standard midi file) or .bun file of your project. As I am not offering to mix this, best is an .mp3 of the track rendered from 0 timeline, and a separate track of the vocal rendered from 0 timeline. The vocal should have no fx. (compression, eq., etc.)

2. A mix of the final song with the voice in it. That way I can see what we are aiming to improve.

You have a demo of Studio? Interesting. I think Assistant is the sweet spot for pricing unless you are planning on tuning separate strings on a guitar or piano then you need to go up.

On 8/12/2021 at 7:52 AM, DallasSteve said:

Glenn

I tried my first fix in Melodyne with the first line of my verse.  I was off on my pitch a lot of places.  That doesn't surprise me.  Maybe I'll go back and run this on some recordings I did 30 years ago to see if I was really much closer.  I spent 5 minutes dragging the blobs (notes) around and double-clicking them to tune them based on my correct notes.  OMG.  I went from terrible to "not too bad".  This is a "Where have you been all my life?" moment.  I'll try using it's automatic functions next, but if I have to spend a few minutes manually fixing my vocals by dragging the blobs around, I can live with that.  It seems to be a step ahead of Waves Tune overall.  I'll pay the $99 but I'll wait a few weeks and maybe they'll send me a discount offer,  Thanks for the tip.  Later I might still buy the Ovox, but this will keep me busy for a while.  Do you know how I commit a change to the audio track after I've cleaned it up in Meoldyne, or is that not possible?

Hi. I really don't think anything compares with Melodyne and my vocals are the same. I can hear the sharpness and flatness and it ain't pretty. What I normally do is make a backup copy of the entire vocal track. Archive it. This is to have something to go back to and compare with if needed. Choose the suspicious phrase, I think Control R will open it in Melodyne. I can't remember is that is the default or I did it, but I think the default. Tune to your desire. You can render it, or as some of my clients are really worthy to be pitched and thankful for it I have many edits, so I just hit B which bounces it to track. I think you might lose a little bit of gain, but no sonic difference in quality. I got the Essentials one for free with Cakewalk (or maybe it was Sonar) but as it does not allow you to tweak the vibrato which makes a huge difference, I purchased the next up- Assistant? 
  If you want a second opinion or to find out how good you (it) can sound,  render me a stereo mix of the music and your voice separate and I will take a look at it. I am very careful what I spend these days, but I need Melodyne in my work flow.

10 hours ago, DeeringAmps said:

Michael, given where my ears are at these days I'm reluctant to give the

you're asking for.
I did enjoy the listen and it seemed balanced here on the DT-990's.
And I find them to be pretty "honest" cans; so there's that...
HTH,

t

and you left me "hanging" waiting for that final "resolution" on the last note (that never came); well done on that!

been hearing a lot about these cans recently. Scared to look at the price. I have multiple sets of monitors but only one medium quality set of AKG cans. I’ll check them out.

10 hours ago, John Vere said:

Michael not sure you saw my post about using Gold Wave to batch convert the files. Takes seconds. Gold Wave is free to use with a Nag. 

yes, thank you John. But no need. Appreciate the effort.

On 8/10/2021 at 4:45 AM, John Vere said:

It actually wasn't a Client, It was the other way around I think as he called him "The Hired Gun" so in that case you do have the right to dictate the way you want things. I do believe Michael has payed a drummer to do these tracks. It is different if a client brings tracks to you and askes you to add stuff or mix them.  

agreed - thanks John.

Specifically the tones. Is the bass too warm? Should I cut more lows? Etc. Or is it ok. Specific frequencies and db appreciated. Since only 3 instruments I left it warm but too much?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/12cEVCk_8hVXRPezwOkVqja8KFrWWV3wi/view?usp=sharing

am just now understanding all this. Am I to run the fix that Noel sent to the other chaps and that will fix things (haven't checked an old project to see if its broken. Could we get a bottom line statement or a new thread telling us what we should do? Will check now if problems. That would be hell. I do save all of my Omnisphere projects and title them by the song so that I can use in other songs but....

CLARIFICATION - just noticed this thread is a few weeks old. Assuming if I am running the latest Cakewalk update I am safe.

On 7/2/2021 at 11:52 PM, bitflipper said:

I missed the 2.7 announcement and wasn't even aware of the update (running ver. 2.6 here), so thanks for cluing me in. Yeh, I know, it clearly says "updates available" every time you start it up. Situational blindness, I guess.

I have current projects that use Omnisphere, Trilian and Keyscape. I'm going to update them this weekend and see if there are new problems, then post back my results.

[EDIT]

I couldn't wait for the weekend. Omnisphere is too important to me to not know if it has a problem. Don't know if this is good or bad news, but I just played back a project with 16 patches in a single Omnisphere instance and there were no discernable problems. How could that be bad news? It is if you're trying to replicate a problem. Sorry, I could not.

hey there. How did you get 16 patches to load in one instance? Mine is 8 track. (not that I want to - just curious,)

ha. Nothing new here, but thanks. Yes, 10 songs LOL! -not 80 tracks of drums for one song. And yes, my clients all know to send mono files. In this case, I hired a drummer on fiverr because I needed a quick job done, specifically wrote a note stating what I wanted but I didn't get what I asked for. This was not a "client" whose songs I am mixing. I was seeking a drum track from a drummer for a project I am/was working on.

As for the import as mono function, it imports as left and right. Hence, my original question - what would be the difference in loading the files into SF or just importing them. Anyway, this was fun. Thanks everyone. I just left them as is and confirmed that the OH were indeed stereo but the rest mono.

8 hours ago, John Vere said:

Glen and I seem to share a lot of common workflow habits. 
 

I was going to say more of less the same things. 
 

Wave editors have better tools and for me do a much faster and better job when working with wave files. 
 

For sure when ever someone hands me anything in wave format it’s going to be looked at in Wave Lab first.

That way I can check for things like artifacts, peak level and overs. And in this case I would also save as mono all tracks heading for a multi track DAW. Even the overheads I would save the left and right separately.   
I find it very odd that engineer would think anyone would want to work with mono sourced tracks that have been exported to stereo. 
 

Everyone I know exports mono stems. 

yes, I work this way as well. Been using Sound Forge since around 2003? And yes, I found it very strange that no one had ever brought this to his attention. He's not an engineer however, he's a drummer. Just as I am player/composer first and engineer I learned along the way.

  I actually didn't get a clear answer to my most recent main question.

"Why would that be any different than importing as mono tracks and deleting one side in Cakewalk". When importing a track there is an option to import as mono tracks. John are you saying that would result in different quality than doing the same thing in Sound Forge?  With my workflow I would consider loading up 80 tracks of drum stems into Sound Forge first an unnecessary step. I always end up in Sound Forge. I don't master inside Cakewalk, PT, or Studio One. But I don't check everything in there first. In this case I did because they were sent to me in stereo.

(FWIW the songs are finished and mastered, but always curious about this.)

thanks all. Here is the drill. The OH were stereo. That is what I was worried about. I got in touch with the hired gun and he says he always send files in stereo even the mono ones. Said nobody or hardly anybody ever says anything. Oh well. I just left them all as stereo, though let him know if I work with him again to send in mono. Hey, what if I don't like his panning on his overheads?

So if I ever felt the need, loading it into Sound Forge and deleting one side would be the best bet. Why would that be any different than importing as mono tracks and deleting one side in Cakewalk.

PS -edit. No worries about fx. All recorded dry.

Thanks, yes, informed the hired gun. Just seeking a confirmation. Will leave as is. Didn’t want to overreact, but the overheads also came as a stereo file and it kind of threw me off that maybe his overheads were mono as well. 

12 minutes ago, michheld said:

I'd just right-click on the clip, select "Convert to mono". Afterwards I'd switch the track to interleave = mono. Wondering if it works for you, too.

Please try a before-after-listening to avoid bad surprises

AllTheBest2U

Thank you. The bad surprises part is what I’m concerned about. Unless I get a positive confirmation, I will have him resend.

so many things I don't know, or at least question. Though recorded in mono, the drummer just sent me all his multitracked snare, snare bottom, hi-hat kick, etc as stereo tracks. If I import them as mono and delete one side, am I getting a true mono signal as pure as the original? Or should he re -send?

Hi Jack Stoner. I wrote in the header it was solved and the explanation. I thought you had to be online because its hosted through a browser. But yes, need a computer. I'm ok with that. Yes, the 5 looks nice as well. Wonderful units.

have you tried uninstalling, installing drivers? Do you have a stand alone VST you can try the keyboard with?