John T

Since this seems to be the thread for this kind of thing:

The little diagrams of the crossfade options are missing in the new Sonar. I think that's bad for quick readability.

Also, sonically, there is nothing stopping you from making great sounding music in Sonar 4. If your music sounds bad, 64-bit plugins will not fix that for you.

Your life is not ruined, and you are mistaking the concept of "can't" for "don't want to".

Now this is an interesting leak!

I'm not seeing that?

 

There's nothing like that right now; the scaling is all based on your global Windows settings.

I do hope we see that sort of thing in future though. I expect it's relatively trivial once the main framework for this stuff is up and running.

Not seen any comment on the latest update yet. New Mercury Classic and Tungsten Classic themes look really good, IMO, and address a number of points raised in this thread.

This thread is like putting an unopened bag of popcorn in front of you and shouting POP! POP! POP!

I have a suspicion - and you can call me crazy if you like - that the price will become known when - and this is a bit out of left field, I know - the price is announced.

I also think that the before the price is announced, the price will not be known.

That's what I was getting at; it's a pretty broad term. That's a really wide range of possible specs.

What specifically do they mean by HD?

I didn't say it couldn't be a horrifying trauma.

29 minutes ago, mettelus said:

If people bought a car and the manufacturer said, "Yeah, we didn't think about headlights, but it is definitely on our upgrade radar! Just don't drive it a night." People would freak.

Sure, but you can't die in a DAW crash. It's not an especially meaningful comparison.

2 hours ago, CSistine said:

Sorry, but Ripple Editing was already a part of Sonar Platinum!

Hmm. Sonar Platinum came out in 2015. Ripple editing was added in 2017.

I dunno, the thing gets updates all the time, and has done for years. This is some alternate reality nonsense we're diving into here.

9 hours ago, Pathfinder said:

So they both install to the original CW directory? Just checking.  Thanks and sorry but I couldn't find the answer.

No, it installs to its own folder. I've got both installed side by side without issues.

That 20 years claim is so silly, I can only assume the poster doesn't even want to be taken seriously.

No worries!

I think it'll be interesting if more of us have a mess around with it and report our thoughts.

I get the feeling quite a lot of posts are coming from people who've just seen screen shots. And that's valid, of course. But I've found that using it has changed my mind about a lot of my initial screen shot impressions.

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13 minutes ago, Pathfinder said:

Sorry if I missed this but:

Can I install next and Sonar juts to take a look without enrolling?

Thanks

Yes, that's what I've done. Saving and exporting are disabled, but otherwise, it's fully functional.

Scroll to the very bottom of the page on this link and click "download" for Sonar.

https://www.cakewalk.com/sonar

45 minutes ago, Bruno de Souza Lino said:

Though my main personal nitpick with the change to the vector UI is the 15% size increase. How is it not possible to maintain the exact same interface size from before when you have freely scalable graphics.

I'm not seeing that. I've done a comparison with both apps running, and everything is almost exactly the same size.

1 hour ago, Mark Morgon-Shaw said:

From reading through all the posts the people with 4k monitors seem happier than those without.

I don't have 4k, but I think the new look at 100% scaling is generally sharp and readable for me. I've not done any precise comparisons, but subjectively, I find it mostly clearer to look at than CbB.

Seems like there are a range of user experiences going on. So I'm guessing some of this is just gremlins to work out with the new tech.

Yeah, that's my gut feeling.

I think that makes more sense for Next, which doesn't have an existing user base, and seems more suited to integration with the overall Bandlab thing. But for Sonar, I think it would certainly ruffle some feathers. I suppose we'll see.

Obviously, at this point in time, we can only speculate. But it seems a reasonable assumption to me that Bandlab's core business is in driving membership signups. And therefore they're going to want Next and Sonar to contribute to that.

There is of course a bit of a tension between that and the value to customers who want to use Sonar, but have no use for any of the Bandlab features. That certainly describes me; I'm not involved, and not planning to be involved in the distribution of any of the stuff I work on. And I'm not in the market for the kind of collaboration tools Bandlab provides.

So the question is two-fold, I think. Firstly, is Sonar going to be available outside of Bandlab membership? And secondly, does that matter to you or not?

I'd say for myself, I don't really care either way, as long as the cost is reasonable for what I use. Which the current membership is to my mind. ~$15 a month is fine by me.

My current guess is that they're going to launch as membership-only and see what happens. But of course, that's only a guess.

1 hour ago, David Baay said:

In this particular case, I think all the FX going gray in the bin kind of gives it away.

I disagree a bit. When I say "at a glance" I'm not talking about being "able to tell what's on and what's off", I'm talking about it being glaringly and immediately obvious what's on and what's off. I'm on about something that's basically impossible to over-do.

If I have one general objection to the new look, it's that things like that button should be more obviously "lit" or "not lit". I don't think the at-a-glance readability is as good as could be.

Regarding blurry text oddities, most everything looks great for me. But I'm getting weird squishy fonts in the title sections in Preferences: