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Thank you, everybody. I took into attention.
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On 10/18/2020 at 7:17 AM, John Vere said:I have been following your other thread and you are asking very good questions and taking the time to learn about the complicated world of DAW recording.
John, thank you.
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On 10/19/2020 at 10:12 AM, Will_Kaydo said:Until we know the specs of the system and hardware used by Konskoo, there's no way to claim an answer
Will, thank you. I will use Windows 10 Home 64-bit. I haven't built computer for Cakewalk yet. I will build it after I will research which VSTs and hardware I need to fulfill my artistic goals, what are system requirements of VSTs which I need.
Firstly artistic goals. Next step - VSTs for them. Next step - hardware for VSTs. Latency is important question. I research information about latency. I read, ask questions on forum, read. Thanks to everybody for answers.
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On 10/20/2020 at 12:14 AM, InstrEd said:
I have a Casio PX5s and have connected it both ways. I did not notice a difference myself.
InstrEd, thank you. I have read about Casio PX-5S. Nice thing. I took into attention.
On 10/20/2020 at 3:10 AM, abacab said:Modern USB MIDI controllers are most simply connected to a USB port on the computer. You could use a 5-pin MIDI DIN connector on the audio interface and keyboard if available. There is no advantage to using a 5-pin MIDI DIN connector, except to provide MIDI compatibility to legacy devices without USB MIDI.
abacab, thank you. I took into consideration.
abacab, if MIDI keyboard controller has USB interface I can connect it to USB port on the computer. Does any audio interfaces have USB port to connect MIDI keyboard controller via USB to audio interface? Or such audio interfaces don't exist?
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abacab, I have read your messages, I explored links you gave. I have watched video you gave. Thank you. I took into attention.
abacab, how to connect MIDI keyboard controller? To Audio Interface or to USB port of motherboard of computer?
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I want to record piano music. I will use VST piano, MIDI keyboard controller, studio monitors, audio Interface.
How to reduce latency? I have read that if interface has ASIO 2.0 I am able to set minimum buffer value to 64 or 128 bits. This is, respectively, 1.5 and 3 ms latency. Am I right?
What is your actual latency performance and buffer settings using an audio interface?
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10 hours ago, abacab said:
That topic is worthy of a forum thread of it's own!
abacab, thank you. I took into attention.
10 hours ago, abacab said:But I will add the following distinction to audio latency as it applies to audio recording on a DAW in general, and with what you are trying to do with a virtual instrument alone.
Thank you.
10 hours ago, abacab said:If any more questions on latency, suggest a new forum topic to attract quality responses.
OK.
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I have read your answer. Thank you. I took into consideration.
10 hours ago, abacab said:The best way around this is to buy an interface with direct monitoring so you can enable that feature and monitor the input audio signal at the interface before it goes into the computer.
I want such interface. I want to learn about it. Also I want such interface would have switcher: direct monitoring on/off.
How to use the Direct Monitor feature on the Scarlett Solo, 2i2 and iTrack Solo.
This is the example of interface which have direct monitoring and switcher: direct monitoring on/off. Am I right?
10 hours ago, abacab said:Any latency at this point will most likely be controlled by your audio buffer setting. That is why the quality of the ASIO driver supplied by your interface manufacturer is important. You should be able to tweak the audio buffer size as low as possible so that the latency is no longer detectable by ear from when you play a note until you hear the sound . For me that goal is usually <10ms.
abacab, thank you. I took into consideration.
I have read that if interface has ASIO 2.0 I am able to set minimum buffer value to 64 or 128 bits. This is, respectively, 1.5 and 3 ms latency. Am I right? Does this part of discussion suitable to start new topic about latency? If yes I will start new topic about latency.
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abacab, which CPU to use for work in Cakewalk: Intel Core or AMD Ryzen?
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abacab, thank you. I took into attention.
On 10/14/2020 at 6:15 PM, abacab said:The FocusRite brand has a good reputation, and is shown here as an example only, not a specific recommendation. https://focusrite.com/en/scarlett
Thank you, abacab. I will research link you gave.
On 10/14/2020 at 6:15 PM, abacab said:The audio interface will connect to a port on the motherboard. USB 2.0 is the most common one used today and ready to go on almost all modern PCs. USB 2.0 has more than enough bandwidth for pro audio. There is really no need to pay for more than a good USB 2.0 interface. Bottom line answer for new users is to go with this.
abacab, if I will use audio interface with USB 2.0 will I have latency?
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Steev, thank you. I took into attention.
Steev, you make nice music. I listened with pleasure.
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John, thank you. Understood.
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Question to everybody.
I have read about audio interfaces. I will connect audio interface to computer. Specifically I will connect audio interface to motherboard of computer. I think about port. Do I need to use USB port? Or do I need to use Thunderbolt port? Or do I need to use FireWire port? Or do I need to use some other port?
I need to have corresponding port on computer, specifically on motherboard. Or I need to have corresponding port on expansion card, and expansion card will be connected to motherboard inside computer.
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On 10/9/2020 at 12:33 AM, John Vere said:
Yes I use the demo version as Abacab has mentioned and never have I noticed the missing octaves. I use piano in most of my backing tracks which are standard dance party stuff. I also will use it in my original songs which are sort of folk/country rock and blues style.
John, thank you. I took your words into consideration.
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I listened your music. Here: https://sites.google.com/view/cactus-studios/original-songs
Nice.
John, October Blues is amazing. It rocks.
And I found your music here: https://www.soundclick.com/artist/default.cfm?bandID=1420844&content=songs
Nice.
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I watched your photos here: https://www.soundclick.com/artist/default.cfm?bandID=1420844&content=about
And here: https://www.facebook.com/Thesockmonkeyacoustic/
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How to pronounce family name Vere? Do you have audio of pronunciation of your family name? If someone will ask me who plays and sing I want to pronounce your family name right way.
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Here https://www.soundclick.com/artist/default.cfm?bandID=1420844&content=about written: Grand Forks, BC USA.
In Wikipedia here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Forks,_British_Columbia written: Grand Forks, population 4,049, is a city in the Boundary Country of the West Kootenay region of British Columbia, Canada.
Canada.
Why here https://www.soundclick.com/artist/default.cfm?bandID=1420844&content=about written: USA?
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John, do you have records of your music in which there is Addictive Keys Studio Grand - Steinway Model D concert grand piano?
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On 10/8/2020 at 12:36 AM, razor7music said:
I read the OP, but didn't read every reply. I'm going to suggest you also look into some mastering software to help you make albums.
Check out Wavelab by Steinberg.
razor7music, thank you. I will research it.
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2 hours ago, abacab said:
The Addictive Keys Studio Grand that John mentioned, Steinway Model D concert grand piano, is available for a free demo in a 4 octave version, no time limit, but limited to 4 octaves and 3 microphone perspectives.
It sounds good to me, but I am not a classical pianist. So try it, and judge for yourself.
abacab, thank you. I will research it.
2 hours ago, abacab said:QuoteStudio Grand was recorded in a large recording studio at the Swedish Broadcasting Corporation. The studio is famous for being extremely quiet and for having a controlled acoustic ambience; for such a large room the reverberation still sounds tight and airy which is a rare combination and the perfect condition for recording a grand piano.
The recordings were done using rare vintage tube and ribbon microphones capturing the instrument at several different perspectives. From close up perspective with microphones next to the soundboard to far away perspective with natural room ambience. The end result is a warm and vibrant sound that goes from intimate to larger-than-life. The microphones used were hand picked from the studios impressive collection.
https://www.xlnaudio.com/products/addictive_keys/instrument/studio_grand
Thank you. I will explore it.
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On 9/24/2020 at 6:47 PM, John Vere said:
I've chosen Addictive Keys for the style of music I play
John, thank you. I will research Addictive Keys.
In which style you play music?
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2 hours ago, Brian Walton said:
I wouldn't get too caught up in which piano they sampled, it may or may not actually sound like what you have in your head as the S&S sound.
I'd download this for free as a starting point:
https://www.meldaproduction.com/MonasteryGrand
If it doesn't sound like you want after you tweak it with various mics and settings, then move on and try another.
another options that are free and of high quality:
Brian, thank you. I will research it.
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On 9/24/2020 at 6:47 PM, John Vere said:
You could record VST Solo piano on just about any computer made for the last 12 years. And if it's a top quality VST then not much else will need to be done as far as EQ and Mastering. You'll want to tray as many demos of the VST pianos to find the one that you like best. I've chosen Addictive Keys for the style of music I play. You might hate it, everyone is different.
You really don't need much to record 1 instrument. It just needs to sound excellent before you record it. Good monitors and room treatment will be more important than the computer. And as advised get an Audio Interface to optimize the playback quality and latency.
John, thank you. I took your words into attention.
I like Steinway & Sons grand piano. I want its sound.
I will research different VSTs which have Steinway & Sons grand piano.
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On 9/24/2020 at 4:24 PM, abacab said:
Physical devices not necessary, as they can be emulated in the box. Their VST plug-in equivalents can do a fine job. However some plug-ins can put a big demand on the CPU. So that is why the question regarding how you intend to use the computer.
Otherwise it sounds like your thinking is on track! Good luck with your project!
abacab, thank you. I took your words into consideration.
I have read. Many information. I made conclusions.
I need to research system requirements of every plug-in I will use. Before it I need to analyze which plug-ins I need to record piano in a box and to make mastering. Am I right?
Also I want to analyze how listeners will listen my music? In my opinion many of them will listen my music using smartphone and headphones. Because of it I want to analyze which unprofessional headphones for common everyday usage are popular? I want to make list of popular headphones. Next during mastering I will use professional studio monitors, professional studio headphones and also I will check my music in different popular unprofessional headphones.
Also I want to analyze on which streaming services listeners listen classical piano music and will listen my piano music? In my opinion it is Apple Music, Spotify, SoundCloud, Deezer, YouTube Music, IDAGIO.
IDAGIO is a paid streaming service specializing in classical music. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDAGIO
Also I need to analyze mastering requirements of this streaming services. What dynamics reserve I need to make for exact streaming service? How many dB should I lower before loading on exact streaming service? What exact streaming services do with dynamic range?
Also I need to analyze requirements of this streaming services to files. 16 bit, 44.1 kHz, stereo? All streaming services have such requirements? Or there are any nuances on exact streaming service?
Also I need to analyze which limiter and which spectrum analyzer should I put on the master track?
Also I need to analyze should I use 24 bit, 192 kHz, stereo during recording and mastering? And because of it I need to analyze how I will do dithering. Are there any nuances?
Also I need to analyze RMS. Are there any nuances on exact streaming service?
Also I need to analyze LUFS. Are there any nuances on exact streaming service?
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Gswitz, thank you for your opinion.
On 9/19/2020 at 8:10 PM, abacab said:The OP wants to build a computer. I assume that probably means a desktop.
abacab, yes, I want to build desktop.
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I have read. Many information. I made conclusion.
I want to publish my music on musical sites. I need to fit their requirements to files. I need to make mastering according their requirements to files. I need to know technical details how to work with files during mastering. I need to know steps of mastering. I need to know equalization, compression. I need to know what hardware and software to use for mastering.
Hardware for mastering: computer, audio interface, studio monitors, studio headphones, cables. Do I need physical devices: equalizer, limiter, compressor? Or VST plugins replace them?
Also I need MIDI keyboard controller to make music.
Software for mastering: Cakewalk, VST plugins.
Also I need VSTi piano to make music.
I need device or VST plugins to analyze frequencies.
Am I thinking right way?
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abacab, thank you. I took into attention. I want to learn more about it. I will read about it
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abacab, John, thank you. I took into attention.
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I want to make mastering of piano music. These will be piano pieces. Each will last from two to three minutes. I will combine these pieces into the album. The album will have from eight to ten pieces. The finished recording will have only a piano - one instrument. After mastering I will upload the finished recordings to different music sites - this will be the only way to distribute these recordings. There will no be physical media - CD, DVD - in distribution.
Next I will make new piano pieces.
I will make budget from tasks solving. First - what I need to solve the task? Next - how much money I need for it.
I want to build a computer for Cakewalk.
I will use Windows 10 Home 64-bit.
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I discussed "How much SSDs to use on computer for Cakewalk?" here: https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/topic/19334-how-much-ssds-to-use-on-computer-for-cakewalk/
Thanks to everyone who gave their opinions. I took into consideration. My main conclusion: I will use two SSD.
First SSD. Disk C on it. On disk C - Windows 10 Home 64-bit, applications including Cakewalk.
Second SDD. Disk D on it. On disk D - current project work files.
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Next I discussed "Overclocked RAM or not for Cakewalk?" here https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/topic/19444-overclocked-ram-or-not-for-cakewalk/
Thanks to everyone who gave their opinions. I took into attention. My main conclusion: I will not use overclocked RAM. I will use traditional RAM: for example Crucial CT 3200 MHz, Kingston KVR 3200 MHz.
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At that topic abacab have wrote:
On 9/10/2020 at 8:33 PM, abacab said:RAM is not a bottleneck in modern computer performance, unless you don't have enough of it. It is the CPU clock speed and core count that matter most.
At that topic I have wrote that I want to make mastering of piano music. Next I asked:
On 9/10/2020 at 10:47 PM, Konskoo said:In this case what CPU clock speed suitable for Cakewalk? What core count suitable for Cakewalk?
abacab asked me clarifying question:On 9/10/2020 at 11:31 PM, abacab said:Will you be using an acoustic piano and recording via microphones, a digital piano with direct in, or will you be using a Virtual Instrument piano in the box?
VI's take more CPU than audio tracks. Since you probably won't be using many simultaneous tracks of audio for your piano recording (just L and R for stereo), your needs should be modest. You would probably be fine with any quad core with the fastest clock that you can afford.
But if you plan to use heavy mastering plugins, then the same rules would apply as with VI's. It all depends on exactly what you plan to use. Virtual Instruments and FX plugins can be very taxing on the CPU, but again, that depends exactly on which ones that you plan to use.
And save some money for a professional audio interface. Good pre-amps will be very important to high quality acoustic recordings.
I can describe how I want to do. I will do it in this topic.
I agree with abacab:
On 9/12/2020 at 6:33 PM, abacab said:A single thread about your entire new computer build would be fine.
On 9/12/2020 at 6:33 PM, abacab said:That way you would capture all of the information in a single context. This would also help someone seeking the same answers in the future who happens to search and find your thread.
Besides the Q and A, this forum is also knowledge base that others will reference, and it is indexed by Google.
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So,
On 9/10/2020 at 11:31 PM, abacab said:Will you be using an acoustic piano and recording via microphones, a digital piano with direct in, or will you be using a Virtual Instrument piano in the box?
I want to make experiment: what way will be suitable for my musical art tasks?
Some piano pieces will be in Rondo musical form. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rondo
Some in Binary musical form. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_form
Some in Ternary form. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ternary_form
Some pieces will be Fantasia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasia_(music)
Some will be Scherzo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scherzo
Some pieces will be Waltz. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waltz_(music)
Some will be Polka. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polka
Some will be Romance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_(music)
Every pieces will last from two to three minutes.
What is the best technical way for me to express my musical ideas? I want to fit technical requirements of musical sites on which I will distribute my music.
For experiment I will use all variants you listed. I will use scheme: first variant - few compositions, second variant - another few compositions, third variant - another few compositions.
Next I will analyze result and will make conclusion which way is suitable for me.
Do I understand right way: Virtual Instrument piano in the box - it is VSTi? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Studio_Technology
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Thank you, MediaGary. I took into consideration.
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Thank you, lmu2002. I took into consideration.
Thank you, abacab. I took into attention.
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On 9/10/2020 at 11:31 PM, abacab said:
Will you be using an acoustic piano and recording via microphones, a digital piano with direct in, or will you be using a Virtual Instrument piano in the box?
VI's take more CPU than audio tracks. Since you probably won't be using many simultaneous tracks of audio for your piano recording (just L and R for stereo), your needs should be modest. You would probably be fine with any quad core with the fastest clock that you can afford.
But if you plan to use heavy mastering plugins, then the same rules would apply as with VI's. It all depends on exactly what you plan to use. Virtual Instruments and FX plugins can be very taxing on the CPU, but again, that depends exactly on which ones that you plan to use.
And save some money for a professional audio interface. Good pre-amps will be very important to high quality acoustic recordings.
Thank you, abacab. I took into attention.
abacab, I can describe how I want to do. Do I need to create new topic to describe it? Because this topic is about RAM. How do you think?
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1 hour ago, James Argo said:
Suitable is relative... What suitable for me may / may not suitable for you. Any nowdays PC running x64 Windows should be fine in general.
1 hour ago, abacab said:what you plan to do with the DAW, as well as how big your budget is, LOL! Talk to @Jim Roseberryabout that. He builds custom DAWs for musicians that are well regarded.
James, abacab thank you. I took into attention.
abacab, I took into consideration that Jim Roseberry builds custom DAWs for musicians that are well regarded. Thank you for information.
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abacab, James what I plan to do with the DAW?
I want to make mastering of piano music. These will be piano pieces. Each will last from two to three minutes. I will combine these pieces into the album. The album will have from eight to ten pieces. The finished recording will have only a piano - one instrument. After mastering I will upload the finished recordings to different music sites - this will be the only way to distribute these recordings. There will no be physical media - CD, DVD - in distribution.
Next I will make new piano pieces.
I will make budget from tasks solving. First - what I need to solve the task? Next - how much money I need for it.
In this case what CPU clock speed suitable for Cakewalk? What core count suitable for Cakewalk?
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9 minutes ago, abacab said:
Not overclocking anything should make for a more stable environment, which is desirable for a DAW.
Thank you, abacab. I took into consideration.
10 minutes ago, abacab said:Anyway, RAM is not a bottleneck in modern computer performance, unless you don't have enough of it. It is the CPU clock speed and core count that matter most.
Thank you, abacab. I took into attention.
abacab, what CPU clock speed suitable for Cakewalk? What core count suitable for Cakewalk?
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53 minutes ago, Jim Roseberry said:
If you're looking for rock-solid stability, NEVER over-clock RAM.
Thank you, Jim. I took into consideration.
53 minutes ago, Jim Roseberry said:There's very little performance difference between DDR4/2400 vs. DDR4/3200.
Thank you, Jim. I took into attention.
I want to build a computer for Cakewalk
in Cakewalk by BandLab
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abacab, thank you. I took into attention.
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My conclusions.
1. The 5-pin MIDI DIN interface of MIDI keyboard controller is outdated.
1.1. I will not buy MIDI keyboard controller which has 5-pin MIDI DIN interface.
2. USB interface of MIDI keyboard controller is actual.
2.1. I will buy MIDI keyboard controller which has USB interface.
2.2. I will connect MIDI keyboard controller via USB interface to USB port of computer.
3. When I press key on MIDI keyboard controller it sends MIDI instruction to computer.
3.1. MIDI instruction is data.
3.2. The amount of date from MIDI keyboard controller to computer is less then USB 2.0 bandwidth.
3.3. If I will connect MIDI keyboard controller which has USB 2.0 interface to USB 2.0 port of computer, there will not be bottle neck of data transfer.
3.4. The bandwidth of USB 3.0 and next is higher then USB 2.0 bandwidth.
3.5. USB 2.0 bandwidth already implements my need of data transfer.
3.6. I don't need MIDI keyboard controller with USB 3.0 interface and higher.
3.7. I will buy MIDI keyboard controller which has USB 2.0 interface.
4. The 5-pin MIDI DIN port on some audio interfaces intends to connect legacy MIDI devices through audio interface to computer.
4.1. I will not buy audio interface which has 5-pin MIDI DIN port.
4.2. I will buy audio interface which has no 5-pin MIDI DIN port.
abacab, am I right with conclusions?