whoisp

On 8/8/2021 at 11:27 AM, Bajan Blue said:

I really like the track and another excellent video - for me personally i would want the drums and bass up a bit more

Apart from that, liked it a lot

Nigel

 

Devine Lie - Take the knife your video is epic haha i need that budget and maybe a spend more time and perfecting my music haha Yes the drums are weak in places on that track. Ive never been one for pushing drums up in any track. Years ago in a band at uni, the drummer had one level and i think its stuck with me to turn them down lol

I prefer Addictive Drums 2 to any other kit. Great sounding kits and you can break the kit up to put on separate tracks to get the individual sound for each drum you want for any style of music. Using a controller or writing drum  score doesn't really matter, Aal the drum programs are good, it personal preference with sound and price.

On 7/26/2021 at 9:44 PM, dubdisciple said:

I think sidechaining might work wonders.  best of luck

Cheer's for the tip on sidechaining ive been trying different techniques also with eq 

1 hour ago, PhonoBrainer said:

I liked the video for its melange of kitchen sink visual themes, and I think whatever mix issues people are mentioning could be solved more simply if you didn't call it EDM. It's a pretty good pop mix, electro pop maybe?

Maybe the Addictive Drums hi hats could come across a little cleaner and crisper but as you said you are not being too finicky with this mix-wise, just banging it out, and I think it more than gets the fun across.

cheers,

-Tom

1 minute ago, dubdisciple said:

I also want to emphasize that the mix issue is minor.  i loved it as is

5 hours ago, Mark Morgon-Shaw said:

 I agree with dubdisciple that it's good but the drums don't hit hard enough for this genre.  The kick needs a lot more level and punch...try layering multiple kicks and then side-chaining the backing track to duck out of the way of the kick on every hit. 

Yes you're right, Addictive Drums hi hats were a problem with fx i was using and i am still getting use to how AD works with its built in EQ etc. Addictive Drums can be quite ***** the way you set them up or have each drum or cymbal on its own track etc.  I should have had hi hats on two tracks really, one clean using pro channel eq and one with wet mix fx i used to get the sound i wanted for this track. i should call it electro pop. i see how people think when you say EDM, people associate it with banging kick on the quarter, when this is the sound  which suited the project goal. 

There is quite a few instrument tracks in this one with the vocal in front. I based the levels round the kick which was -12db and was clipping the mix in to many places, i used a drum room bus with the goal of ducking but maybe threshold to low. Mark is right with side-chaining, i need to do more work with side change compression because i did have threshold to low and not done enough with side-chaining which many multi tracks. Not sure which is the best free compression plugin in cakewalk with side chain. The problem is when you hit a piano note, at the same time as a bass note, maybe a chord and kick with a vocal, its easy to clip to often with dynamics of song when its driving. I need to look at side chaining more to trigger for sure.  

On 7/24/2021 at 6:31 PM, dubdisciple said:

This sounds great, but I think the bass and drums should knock a little harder for this type of song.  remember, this is dance music.  If that thump isn't there, it won't flow with the rest of the songs people are dancing to in the club.  You have a great base.  just tweak that mix to give a bit more thump. It's making me relax, which is good, but a few tweaks to mix and I will be dancing instead.

The originally mix i did was a heavier mix and i then always do a mix with more empathise on feeling and emotion. By far the majority choose this mix for the overall balance and feel than the heavier bass and drum mis, i know what you mean though.  If it was more instrumental i would have sacrificed more. I'm just experimenting with adding some type of EDM to my normal guitar songwriting style and getting more technical with cakewalk. I need to improve my mixing and mastering, this is my 11th song using a daw after choosing cakewalk its been a massive learning curve and getting the guitar out after 20yrs. Next project i am not sure what to do, maybe drum and bass or a classical soundtrack.

My best EDM type track ive done to date i think and it passed the mountain bike test i.e riding through the countryside with headphones on in sun haha. I'm really happy with my base playing and drums on this one. The song builds up, subtle flowing uplifting vibe. I do repeat the lyrics, its that type of vibe "keep it easy" and dance vocal FX.

Addictive Drums Black velvet through modulation and phase filters in places. Then i sample the 808 and pop kit for for main kick and snare.  Mostly done on KeyZone classic, Surge and Synth Master free bundles with tweaking Audio FX. Video just something i bang together to share my music.   

2 hours ago, Paul Bush said:

Thanks whoisp ,yeah that was the thing that attracted me to this unit was the midi conection , its a great unit and does what it says on the box , I may have installed it incorectly athough it worked perfectly for a while and then if I wanted to look on one screen for  a tutorial and the other cakewalk   the sound fell out and then more often even when cakewalk wasnt turned on , if i mixed a wave or mp3 from cakewalk to the libary  i couldnt  open the file unless i rebooted the whole system .. theres something wrong some where , I´ll carry on with it untill it explodes and then buy another one ..cheers

ive had the very odd drop out, i just turn the unit off for few seconds and back on and s sorts it out so the usb drivers refresh without rebooting the pc.  Drops out usually a software issue which can conflict with driver on pc, things like youtube can even cause it running in background using the sound drivers haha and not the unit itself which is rare, so basically background programs, anti virus, wifi and things like apps that also use audio like spotify etc

On 7/16/2021 at 10:33 AM, Paul Bush said:

Thanks chaps , i sent it back to thomann and they said there´s no faulty components , i sort of guessed that anyway , its possible I´ll have to pay the postage and thats fine,  I dont mind spending a couple of hundred euros to get the right unit  to fit my means the largest project untill now only has only had 16-18 tracks   using sub busses for effects etc so no movie produtions  can aynone recomend a good 150-200 euro interface ? cheers P....                I was looking at the 404 as an upgrade

Ive got the Behringer UMC1820 Paul, comes with dedicated drivers and been stable for me on win10.  However i did want one with midi port and spidif to use some of my old equipment has i don't use a usb controller but my old midi keyboard and piano. The 404 didn't have those options, plus the extra heaphone monitor is real  quick and handy. Cost me £170 but see some cheaper, is rack mount . I could find nothing else at a reasonable price with these midi and Spidf inputs inputs 

10 hours ago, PhonoBrainer said:

I thought your mix held up quite well and the second half of the song was more on the EDM side, kind of felt like a bit of a wait to get there tbh. But while you are waiting, here's the silhouettes. So all good.

nice one!

cheers,

-Tom

Loving your funky jazz vibe in your work BTW

On 7/12/2021 at 2:56 PM, Wookiee said:

I would not call this Dance Type EDM. Why because it is not mindless enough. 

Might get played in a club whist they are setting up or breaking down but there is not as, Tezza said, , a 4 to the Floor mind numbing sub Bass kick to be the genre described.

In fact it might be considered to clever.

haha nobody accused me of been to clever. Last time i mention a genre i will stick to "here's my latest vibe" 

On 7/10/2021 at 1:22 PM, Bajan Blue said:

I don't really care what genre this is, I liked it!!

The mix sounds fine to me

Great job

Cool

Nigel

 

Iv'e never been one for genre either haha

On 7/10/2021 at 3:05 PM, jack c. said:

thanks for info.jack c.

Found it - MeldaProduction MFreeFXBundle  has 34 plugins  including MautoPitch 

https://www.meldaproduction.com/MFreeFXBundle/

Personal preference i guess with some things on what overall sound you wanted, i could have gone more instrumental but it was aa vocal project. In some parts of the track, well its off the beat on every quarter in chorus, i was just experimenting with electronic track with my style in a way. I purposely stayed away from every quarter. i started the track jamming on a loop every quarter but the repetition affected the progression twists with vocals.

I do agree, it's best to stay with the dance type classic music theory with EDM and Techno 'kick tops and riff' i was exploring the sound character and dynamics 

On 7/8/2021 at 2:57 AM, michaelhanson said:

It a Rickenbacker 4003

Forgive my eyes, that's a beauty, Beatles Paul McCartney used it to drive some of their distinctive basslines. Iv'e never played one but heard a lot about them 

20 hours ago, jack c. said:

sounds right on.nice chords. harmony and voice  vst treatment.i think i'll buy it.jack c.

what vst plugins used on voice?

I used a free VST called MautoPitch which came in a Melda Production Audio Tech free plugin bundle, happy days. I used the MautoPitch plugin (pre) doing the live takes to bend voice and mess about with vocal melody, first time i tried this technique. I used a Sennheiser E865 mic  plugged into my old Boss 1180 digital recording studio (phantom) i use the boss because it as a good FX and sims amp processor for some sounds i prefer.   Only used bit of Boss compression and the standard cakewalk Breverb2  on a  bus in cakewalk. 

You can use the MautoPitch plugin also post fx on a pro channel bus to tidy up your vocal tuning so you don't really notice it, so you can be more subtle with it. I did this EDM type vocal sounds on purpose.  You can spend loads on something like Melodyne to get that dance vocal sound pretty much perfect or a perfect sounding clean pitch for rock vocal etc. Melodyne has loads of other uses but iv'e only used the Melodyne trial version which is totally different to MautoPitch which is not a post edit.  i will buy Melodyne one day, probably black Friday if they do a deal . It is pretty much the best plugin for vocal and instrument tuning /pitch or transposing key etc also its got some neat features , i.e you can export wave files to midi files which is real handy for melodies if you don't want to spend all day working things out on Guitar and keyboard as my playing is not a very high standard, im pretty average at best but know what sound i want.  There is another Plugin called QuadraVox which is ok for vocals and instruments, worth a look. Just check the reviews out on youtube Jack, normally where i start to see what they say about a plugin and use 

18 hours ago, Mark Morgon-Shaw said:

Agree.  Not EDM... 90's style Electonic Pop maybe .. ?

Iv'e called it "Dance type EDM" in the post it's electronic, its music and you can dance to it haha Like i said I probably will do more Dance type EDM and integrate more guitar as i am a guitarist experimenting with music in general.  

20 hours ago, Tezza said:

It needs the dominant kick sub every quarter beat for that genre.

Iv'e called it "Dance type EDM" in the post. Sticking a sub kick on every quarter would not work on this mix like the New Year Mix 2021 - Best of EDM Party Electro House & Festival Music you posted doesn't have a sub every quarter beat, i will be sure to tell them haha 

This music project turn out much better than expected and I probably will do more Dance type EDM and integrate more guitar. Only tiny bit on this track which is mostly FX and Bass guitar - Long  story type vocal intro,  built up in stages to enter the next phase at 1:20. The first Middle 8 harmonies was fun and bit bonkers with a second break in the dance chorus with the melody phased with modulation. Video was just banged together, i spend much more time on music. The music took me about 3 weeks which is longest its taken me to do a song haha I spent time making my own sample's which was time consuming. Video two days as i filmed myself doing the vocals to save time.... Hope you like it P ? 

On 7/5/2021 at 1:30 PM, michaelhanson said:

Nice song.  Seems like the drums could come up a bit.

Whats the bass you have, look real nice, bit like a music man, stingray  or gretsch

19 hours ago, PhonoBrainer said:

Hey Whoisp! I liked your track and video and could certainly hear the Floyd. I have also worshipped at the altar of the Visualdon and recognized some of those clips from one I'm making - very cool use of his material!

I appreciated your vocal performance, it has great energy and emotion. Plus your dog liked it! I thought the mix was quite clear as well.

 

cheers,

-Tom

 

Cheers Tom, yes i don't shoot much of my own video material at times, can be too time consuming and i rather concentrate on learning cakewalk at moment.  Even using others visuals can be time consuming with the editing and fx has you probably know.  I like to shoot more video and take my time, but takes time away from music. Just finishing my next track which is totally different style but still has my whoisp edge, ive messed about with a vocal auto tune to do a EDM type soundtrack. Hopefully knock up a video fast and all ready by weekend. PS dog liking this one better haha 

22 hours ago, Vernon Barnes said:

 seems to cover a lot of ground with plenty of synthesis methods and good selection of presets it you are not into sound design yourself.

Great song and video. I certainly hear a late Floyd influence particularly the beginning. 

Cheers i will check it out been using the free synthmaster 2.9 seems pretty good  and looking at Kontakt 

what would anyone suggest has a good synth plugin with loads of sounds?  

I'm liking it a lot Mark, got some groove going... 

reviews seem good but i not sure why the free one don't work. 

you tried this one http://www.nsp-vst.ru/ bottom of page wahman

 or download link

http://www.nsp-vst.ru/files/Wahman_x64.zip

4 hours ago, Paul Bush said:

I tried installing that wah but it just wont work Ive copied and pasted it in my vst folders and in the scan  but cant find in in my library ?????

I installed Microsoft™ 64/32 Bit Driver -win c drive - program files - cakewalk - vst plugins