fitzroy

2 hours ago, telecode 101 said:

keep trying wong50

You mean keep typing it in randomly, hoping that it would magically work, even without a sale announced? That's just wong in so many ways. 

I'd probably get it at 50% off as well. Maybe they'll have a group buy like last year.

Oh, and why is this in the 'Deals' section? It's not even an upgrade.

3 hours ago, Piotr said:

Yep. $300 spent last year for $50 voucher penalty.

Damn, I'm getting there. Is that by calendar year (did you get your first $50 voucher in January)? 

3 hours ago, Piotr said:

I doubt if anybody interested in it as PA is making during its valid time mostly single deals which are worth of attention...

Yeah, I know., they are great plugins and many of them worth the price.... But why person who spent more is offered with much worse deals? It is not appreciation I would expect buying more.

So still respecting their quality etc... but I have lots of plugins of different brands so if they want my money they cannot try to force me buy with worse deals than person who has no single PA plugin.  It is not nice...

I don't have to buy , they do need to sell. Its their choice...

I like AA model, after crossing threshold you got constant discount no matter what...  And they are sending they vouchers to provide this before every deal and most of updates (simple speaking very often). This is what I call appreciation from manufacture for buyer...

I  agree, at least you should have the choice of whether you want a $25 or a $50 voucher. I was just saying that I think you'd be able to exchange it on kvr for the $25 voucher, since the $50 is more useful for the newer plugins (say, you want Knifonium now) and there's plenty of people hunting for the latest stuff.  Sure, it would be harder to do during one of the sales where the $25 voucher would be more useful, and it's a hassle, but... yeah.

If $300 over the last year is the threshold - I'm practically there, but I also feel I'm slowing down. Not really hunting for a lot of other PA plugins - I still want a few, but I'd only get them on really good sales (I didn't get anything for $29.99 the previous round of sales). I'm quite happy with the plugins I bought from them.

On that note, I picked up SpecOps now. 

39 minutes ago, Piotr said:

Great, at last something for 50/75 voucher prisoners...

Only thing which bother me is if I buy something it will extend my waiting for that stupid $50 voucher penalty expiration...

Is there a known spending threshold beyond which you get the $50 voucher, instead of the $25 one?  Or is it one of those dark secrets that everyone's just trying to guess? Just so I know when to pause buying their stuff ?. Also, can't you just exchange your $50 voucher for a $25 one? There seems to be some interest in them on KVR, so it might not all be hopeless. 

2 minutes ago, jesse g said:

Fitzroy,

It was stated earlier that the purchasing the Effect Rack doesn't allow you to used the plugins separately from the Rack, that the Rack must always be loaded to pull up a plugin,  is this true?  I  own the Sountoys 5 Bundle and I can pull up each plugin as a stand alone plugin without the Rack.

It's true. But there's nothing preventing you from loading individual plugins by loading only that one plugin into the empty rack. As I was posting above, the CPU hit/difference is negligible. The workflow is a bit different, that's all. 

4 hours ago, Matthew Sorrels said:

I think what really matters is how much credit having this gets you for getting the full Soundtoys 5 bundle. 

Based on my own experience, which seems to be echoed by what others who bought the rack have been posting for the past couple of days, this is not the case. I think most people who bought the rack will not upgrade to the full bundle, unless there's some crazy good offer down the road.

The rack has all the main plugins in the bundle, and it doesn't come with any significant downside (in my case, the CPU hit of the empty rack is about 0.02%). If you also consider the fact that the 'little' plugins, which are not in the rack, have been on nice sales previously and people bought them in order to get better offers for the bundle, a lot of new buyers of the rack now have what, 95% ?, of what the full bundle offers. I would think Soundtoys are well aware of this. They leave a bit of headroom, so that those who want 100% of what they offer go for the bundle, while selling the rack to A LOT of people who were not heavily invested in their plugins before. I'd say it's a win-win. 

I jumped on this one. God knows how many times I tried to buy it for $99 a few months ago, with that weird only-works-if-you-got-the-free-demo voucher. 

Well. I couldn't help myself, and I'm 49 smackers poorer. 

41 minutes ago, telecode 101 said:

I picked up the 3 pack bundle. hoping this results in a further bundle discount on FX down the road. 

I hope you're right, but evidence so far suggests otherwise. Upgrade/crossgrade offers haven't been great for owners of individual FX or packs. Seems like Arturia, in step with other companies, is focused more on trying to get new customers on board when it comes to their newest releases. It's not even clear when/if discounts down the road will match the launch price (see Pigments 2); it's inevitable that they will at some point, but it might be a long wait. 

In other words, if someone likes/needs multiple plugins from the FX collection, the smart money says grab them now. I decided that I'm more interested in the modulation pack than any other pack, so I can live without the full FX collection. I'd be (pleasantly) surprised if buying the modulation pack turns out to be a cheaper way to get the full collection. 

2 hours ago, mibby said:

Has anyone compared to the FREE Blue Cat plugins? I've got a few Chorus FX, but that one is my go-to...

I like the free Blue Cat plugin pack. Also the free TAL chorus. Dimension D has more 'color', I guess in line with the hardware it's based on. So maybe less flexible, but a really nice, smooth, analog color. Demo it, you'll probably like it. 

I'll very likely get Kaleidoscopes at some point, in one of the Waves multi-plugin deals. It's inevitable. They've spammed me so hard for months now, there's probably a small, but measurable voltage difference in my brain by now. I thought that would settle it, but I demo-ed Dimension-D  earlier today. I shouldn't have. It's one beautiful, sweet sounding chorus. I was thinking I might not be that impressed, since I demo-ed their spring reverb before and didn't think much of it (I much prefer Eventide's Spring). But Dimension D is NICE. Thanks, Arturia! 

52 minutes ago, TheSteven said:

No more so than you and your neighbor's wife eating breakfast in the morning at close to the same time.  That you both do so doesn't mean you're colluding to off her husband.  or does it?

Indeed, correlation does not imply causation.

Validating the truth value of the previous statement, however, does not make correlation any less interesting.  

Interesting how Arturia's sale overlaps with Kaleidoscopes being released. I've been trying to find a video where they're demo-ed against each other (just for the sound of the individual effects). No luck so far. 

The year is 2023.

The machines rose from 

the ashes of the nuclear fire. 

But we all bought this plugin

for $14.99, courtesy of PA

and our monthly vouchers. 

Just now, Larry Shelby said:

That's the only 2 they have "on sale" but those purchases still count towards
the Free Plugins...

Right, so following the logic from my initial post... 

11 hours ago, fitzroy said:

I was looking at that earlier. The downside is that JRR is not in on the ongoing Waves sale (40% off + plugins), so you can't get Kaleidoscopes + 2 plugins for around $60 on JRR, but you can elsewhere (audiodeluxe, everyplugin). 

...you could get Kaleidoscopes and, say, SSL-E, plus one free plugin, for about $60, on audiodeluxe or everyplugin, or you could get the exact same thing from JRR for about $280.

Too close to call?  

2 minutes ago, Larry Shelby said:

JRR is selling at the "already discounted price"...it still counts for the free plugins

Do you have access to some special prices on JRR?  The only 2 plugins they have on sale are Kaleidoscopes and the Kramer guitar channel, as far as I can tell. 

47 minutes ago, Eusebio Rufian-Zilbermann said:

Aren't the "free"plugins provided by Waves directly? (depending on registering new plugins but not on depending where you got the reg codes). In the past that's how I remember it worked. You may want to check the details at the Waves website.

You'd get the plugin(s), but JRR is not running the Waves sale, so the Waves code for 40% off doesn't work. In other words, it would be cheaper to buy from Waves, let alone the resellers who are having the sale. 

33 minutes ago, Piotr said:

I wish I bought it at the very first intro price...

43 minutes ago, telecode 101 said:

their website is so messed up.  i added to my cart an it gave me offer to add Largo as well. i added the Largo, then it offered to give me Studio 808 at a heavy discount. I added that as well. Then I removed Largo since I already have it and it removed the Studio 808.

That's funny. Why did you add Largo, since you already had it? Experimental shopping? You could write to them and ask about getting Studio 808 discounted. 

2 minutes ago, Larry Shelby said:

$34.70 with code FORUM at JRR
https://www.jrrshop.com/waves-kaleidoscopes-plugin

I was looking at that earlier. The downside is that JRR is not in on the ongoing Waves sale (40% off + plugins), so you can't get Kaleidoscopes + 2 plugins for around $60 on JRR, but you can elsewhere (audiodeluxe, everyplugin). 

26 minutes ago, mibby said:

Not trying to push my mixing...

You should though, great stuff! 

Many of the H9 series plugins that had launch sales are back on sale.

The Spring reverb is $24.35, while Crystals, Rotary, MangledVerb, UltraTap, and ShimmerVerb are $32.74. 

Undulator is still $19 on the mothership. 

Yup, nice video! Completely agree with the 'don't sell your bass part'. As a guitarist, getting a nice bass was one of the best gear-related decisions I've ever made. Not to mention that it saves you A LOT of time when recording, no matter how good bass VIs are. I only use the latter when traveling or when needing something 'different' (e.g. I have/use UJAM's upright bass, it's awesome!). 

On 9/5/2020 at 12:49 AM, mibby said:

If you've got your eye on something, leave it in your shopping cart for a couple of days and they'll start nagging you to buy, then eventually send you a discount code anywhere from like 5%-14%, I think is the range I've seen.   

I'm sure that's true, given that I got a "unique promo code" from them as soon as I uninstalled the demo 

For lack of something better to do, I guess, I demo-ed this. With the core pack. Clean/crunch, don't care much about the rest. 

Compared to the better plugins out there, the UI is terrible. Audio Assault level stuff. If people are actually paying what they charge for this, they should take 10% of that and pay a proper UX engineer to do the work. Forget about balance, emphasis, hierarchy, golden ratios. Basic stuff, scale, size, proportions, alignment. 

To my ears, it sounds ok. Not bad, not great, somewhere in that great between. I'm not sure I would replace anything I have/use with this. Plini, S-Gear? God, no. Kuassa, Amplitube Fender(s), PA, Nembrini? Nope. Bias FX? Maybe. Probably.  

I'm sure there's more to it than what I sampled. STL seem to be quite knowledgeable about profiling/IRs, one can tweak the amps/effects/cabs a whole lot more than I did, I didn't try any of the artist packs, and there's definitely people who like them, despite the pretty steep price. I just didn't get any spark out of it, whatsoever. 

A minute ago I was reading about the dearth of sales this weekend. Now this. Sweet!