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12 minutes ago, Fleer said:

It’s a simplified version of the Silver one, without mix knob. 

Interesting. As I’ve never seen a mix knob on the hardware, I didn’t think to look. Not something I need often and plenty of work arounds if I do.

 I was really concerned about the performance and sound comparison. If that knob is all that’s different? I’m good!

3 minutes ago, jesse g said:

The LA-2A is a collection of LA-2A, which are three plugins. 

The LA-2A Collection – Three Different Flavors

The Teletronix LA-2A Classic Leveler Collection includes units from three different LA-2A eras — Gray, Silver, and the original LA-2. Here's a simple breakdown.
 

The UREI-built Silver LA-2A is generally appreciated for its faster time constant and its treatment of transients. This makes it a versatile performer that's suitable for the widest variety of applications — including drums, percussion, and bass guitar.

The Gray model, paying homage to Jim Lawrence's original mid-‘60s Pasadena-built units, is typically used for material requiring a medium-speed compression — think lead and background vocals, keyboards, and (judiciously) acoustic and electric guitars.

The LA-2 model captures the mojo of one of the very earliest Teletronix units, offering the slowest response time and a distinctive "mellow" sound owing to its 50-year-old luminescent panel. It may be best used on legato vocals, strings, and horns. But you know the old maxim, “If it sounds good, it is good!”

The free one is the Universal Audio LA-2A tube compressor

Thanks Jesse!

I was hoping that was all that was meant. I would have been surprised if they actually created a new version to give away for free!

I knew the collection had all three models. I was fortunate through much of my career with always having at least one or two Teletronic LA2a's when there was only the once version! 😉

I also have the UA 1176 collection which is the FET compressor I always reach for first! Magic in the hardware and replicated in these softwars to an impressive point!

1 minute ago, El Diablo said:

I'm just being blunt.  But no, I wasn't tackful in my approach, sorry

Not to worry. I understand, but I’m hoping you do too!

We all love free but it’s not necessarily for everyone.

I have a few myself and they are all slightly different but overall, I’m finding the versions of devices made by the company that manufactures the hardware seem "best" to my ear...

12 minutes ago, Solidos said:

 

So? What’s the difference? Between them?

I just noticed a quote on their' page asking if this is the same plugin as the La2a in their' La2a collection and they answered no!

I'm wondering what the difference is? So far nothing found online about this...

1 minute ago, El Diablo said:

Why do I need that when I've got HorNet HA2A?

Good for you if you feel you don’t need/want it, feel free to ignore this offer.

Small price to pay...

Even better would be to performances, recordings, and mixes that are perfect without anything!

...some people are just never happy!

Wow! Can't beat this deal!

https://www.uaudio.com/uad-plugins/compressors-limiters/teletronix-la-2a-tube-compressor.html

14 minutes ago, satya said:

https://direktdsp.com/

We decided to make our plugins free and post the source code online to hopefully help the plugins grow and evolve, have forks made that improve it and help spread the plugins to more platforms.

With the combined functionality of both these plugins, we're sure that you'll end up loving them and what they can do.

Check out the reviews BedroomProducersBlog did here if you want some extra information on the two plugins.

Go check both of our plugins out now and add even more creativity to your production arsenal for free.

Nice attitude!

I will check these out later today when my DAW is up!

Thanks!

10 hours ago, SloHand Solo said:

I've got a four fader midi controller that sends constant midi messages regardless of whether the faders are moving or not.  Is there a filter or gate I can use to only record changes?

I briefed through the thread a moment ago. I don’t know if this (or something like it) might help.

Way back in the days where all instruments were a piece of gear separate from the pc.

I still have a couple of these with all my stored hardware.

JLCooper MIDI patchbay. If I remember correctly, they had 16 discrete MIDI inputs and 12(?) discrete outputs with a fully configurable combination of connections. It also had an extremely deep MIDI filtering system capable of very specific, complex combinations of what, & how was (might) to be filtered. And of course, something like 128 patches of different setups of all this. All 5pin DIN connectors as that was all that existed at that time.

I don’t know if these are still available or not, but I’m betting there’s one or more companies out there making variations on this theme. Likely even some less comprehensive, but more focused on your needs?

Hmmm. Just came to mind that someone probably has a MIDIdriver loop that offers complex MIDI filtering?

Sorry for not having more specifics...

I’ve found same deal elsewhere online for download version

skeptical only due to previous experience with corel long ago (i still have the cd/dvd)

I like Photoshop much better but trapped with v7 (win7 era) as I refuse their current online only policy...

36 minutes ago, Will. said:

Im gona take a long shot here with this, but it fixed a similiar problem i had after the update. 

If you have NEXT installed try removing it from your system and see if your LONG PROJECT LOADS and AUDIO DROPOUTS disappear. 

Interesting idea. I’ve got nothing to lose as Next doesn’t work on my Windows system.

Too burnt now, but tomorrow for sure!

Hi Gang!

 I’m new to this thread, but I’ve had such a setup running (still do) here using a Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL as primary interface and a very old device, a Soundscape (I forget the model #) 8 i/o interface. No preamps on this puppy only +6 lines so I gotta hit them hard enough (pro vs semi at -10). I have rarely used it this last decade but it runs clean.

The VSL interface software makes this really simple as my adat connection simply shows as additional faders after the Presonus 8. Labeled as adat and grouped in general. Displayed in Cake in respective fashion. I found this an easy way to acquire 16 i/o.

Strange occurences Suddenly Appear? I don't know if this is new to the current release, but I've never seen this before.

Using Cherry Audio's CA2600 for a simple monophonic line. All was well. Track was frozen.

I had need to unfreeze the track for some re-arrangement of the music clips.

All was still fine. Everything played correctly.

Then I began to freeze my tracks and coming to this synth in turn (last synth to freeze individually) after freezing, the audio track is empty! No sounds have been frozen. So I unfreeze and now discover that the synth is playing, but no sound is arriving at the vst's audio output.

I re-traced all i/o and nothing has changed, but now the synth will not emit any sound?

So I insert a new instance of same vst and copy the MIDI clips from the previous track, duplicate PC settings and fx rack plugins. Call the same patch and voila! It works!

Until I freeze it??? Then it becomes empty once again and the routine can be repeated over again with the exact same responses....

Anyone have any idea what's going on here? I've never had this with any synth. Not even previous uses of this vst!  What might have changed to make this one synth behave this way? only now? So at first I thought it's the new update.  I don't know, but this is a new situation for me here and the only thing changed is the update (and added Next but I doubt that relates)

Thanks for your eyes... Sorry to pester anyone

Edit:

I see that if I add a new instance and copy all plugins/settings, then freeze, it freezes correctly, but if I unfreeze it and try to re-freeze it, the routine repeats... So I have a workaround for the moment, but something strange is going on here!

Not sure what's going on, but it is pretty constant and only since this new release...

CbB is having a lot of trouble opening. Mostly it takes a very long time to open showing the spinner.... Occasionally it will not escape from this attempt and I'm forced to use task manager to shut it down and re-open...

What would change this behavior? I have the vst scanner set to manual so it has nothing to do with that...

49 minutes ago, rin said:

This makes no sense to me, lol.

I don't know how to assign things to a key...unless you're talking about drum maps? In the drum map I don't see a way to have "KeyAft" events as the "In Note/Out Note".

I also don't know how to do zero-velocity events in real time.

I’m sorry I wasn’t clear.

All drum software has sounds assigned to keys. You need/can not do that for the most part. But all products don’t map their' sounds to a specific standard. There are a few standard practices that many adhere to.

You need to see if your product's manufacturer opted to add this.

Others assign such to an articulation which requires a combination of one key to switch to articulations and another to describe which articulation.

So either of these may be used in CbB.

You can create or find an articulation created for your need. Then insert that event into any project via their articulation functions. A separate item to learn unto itself.

The other method first described is an older method used before articulations were invented/added. It is simply the sound of the cymbal being played, choked. A sample which is tied to choke the cymbal just as hi hat successive event can.

...but the manufacturer has to offer one of these options and most do.

13 minutes ago, rin said:

Yeah I'm trying to choke crash cymbals with a pinch of the pad, this is not hi-hat related. So if I understand right, the kit has to support aftertouch events, the DAW has too, and the VST plugin has too. Any recommendations on drum plugins that do support aftertouch? If I plug my kit into my BFD Player app the cymbal choke functions work.

No. Not necessarily.

It needs to have a method of doing this.

The most popular/common is to have actual sample/event assigned to a specific key. So I would scour the manufacturer’s keymap. It’s easy to miss finding on many maps. I myself constantly lose my place in Superior Drummer’s map which I find I don’t like it’s organization, but you get used to it with time.

Often a workaround for most drum software can be to insert a zero-velocity event where desired. Not always effective. Depending on re-trigger settings, one can turn off the previous when overlapped as discussed fir typical high hat setups.

2 hours ago, Glenn Stanton said:

Discord is a virus.

Discord is... well... discord!

I find it rather painful to use to begin with... I just did a couple of posts about my first NEXT experiences....

1 hour ago, Glenn Stanton said:

my kids (adults now) use it on their PC and then call me to complain about how much disk time, memory and CPU are being used since it's also trying to act as a sharing service etc. so definitely not good on a PC unless that's all you do on a PC 🙂 

Very sad!

I remember long ago making the same decision about not adding iTunes to a pc! I have iTunes on my apple gear only!

A bit of a pain for transference of music due to apples proprietary manner of controlling media... but not bad once setup. I share a mac/windows machine and simply boot to mac, then laod songs from the pc partition into itunes... Easy now!

How do we do that to discord? Any way to get it to echo to simple browser or some such?

Then again, as I'm not a beta tester for Next (Applied but didn't get the call) there's a chance I may never need it anyway as I fully expect I will be buying/installing Sonar immediately upon release but Next? Maybe check it out somewhere down the road if the price is right?

1 hour ago, Glenn Stanton said:

and as a note: do not install discord on your PC, it takes over your system and is very hard to get rid of without a wipe and re-install of the OS and your apps... the discord web version is fine, and is designed for a younger crowd anyways... 🙂 

Thanks for the word Glenn!

I doubt I would, but now I know I won’t.

I've had discord on my iPad for many years where it causes no issues. Especially none related o any music gear!

A friend insisted I needed it for more secure communication only to drop it shortly after I got it. Then Cakewalk used it to handle their iPad app communication. It sits there getting updated periodically gut I don’t remember when I last opened it!

1 hour ago, Noel Borthwick said:

No it isn't. There is a lot more beneath the surface and more to come of course. 

What you are reacting to is similar theming and branding that we following for our apps to look consistent. 

I didn't mean to belittle it... I was only commenting on the appearance. Not toy or child-like as the OP had posted, but similar in appearance to the browser...

I think I saw something I wasn't supposed to. There was a post a bit earlier (days) that showed the manual and I dared to browse it's contents. I didn't really check too many details as I didn't know the legitimacy of the doc I was seeing though it's content seemed too much for a joke...

It seems to offer plenty of power, though I don't think it's for me...

I am very happy with Cakewalk/Sonar and always have been. Yes, I have my wishes & complaints, but overall there's not a better DAW in the world for ME!

A bit harsh, but to me it looks like a program version of the Bandlab editor...

15 minutes ago, David Baay said:

Yes, I understood 'All External'; Note that I said "all MIDI ports on the interface" , meaning hardware INs. As an aside, CbB will also see ports provided by things like virtual MIDI cables as 'External' (to CbB), but that  may not be relvant here.

As for MIDI making sound, that's why I suggested it might be due to interference at the hardware level. It's not clear that Iris2 has anyting to do with the issue, it could just be that selecting All External Ports would have called all MIDI drivers to open their IN ports which could have consequences at the hardware level. Just speculation at this point, but given the strangeness of the symptoms, something that needs to be condsidered.

I understand.

A big part of my own "confusion" in this scenario is that it involves the use of two plugins that are unknowns to me. I’ve had Iris 2 but never used it and I just got bias amp 2 yesterday.

Interesting though. I knew that VSTs can spit out midi but seeing the option "all external inputs" inferred that there are internal inputs which I believed were such midi outputs from VSTs. External (to me) implies coming from outside the computer. Be it USB-MIDI or 5-pin DIN-MIDI.

And I still can’t find any settings in bias amp that relate to midi output routing.  Maybe something in Iris 2 is "open" and allowing the interference? Well obviously it's passing midi from my keyboard but some option left open being affected?

53 minutes ago, David Baay said:

Makes me think it's due to actual physical electro-magnetic interference between the MIDI/Audio sections of your interface, triggered by having CbB open all MIDI ports on the interface for input. Does your system have physical MIDI ports other than USB MIDI from your keyboard?

Yes, I have 5pin din MIDI with my Audio interface. I use it to connect with my old ger when needed...

All Ports are not selected.... All EXTERNAL Ports was selected... That should not include ANY info from an INTERNAL synth! And creating minute audio? What's that all about? I'm sending MIDI from my keyboard. It's a controller and has no audio?

1 hour ago, David Baay said:

What kind of sound? It doesn't make sense that having a MIDI track echoing All Exernal Inputs would result in live audio getting into (and out of) some audio track. Did the guitar track have Input Echo enabled or does Bias Amp have a side-chain input? It seems most likely Bias Amp can accept MIDI input (e.g. from a pedal board) and was somehow receiving MIDI via some other MIDI track echoing to it and generating some kind of output from it, but then restricting the MIDI input on the Iris track should not have had any effect. I don't think Iris2 offers MIDI OUT (?), so it should have been a dead end for incoming MIDI, regardless of the source.

Exactly the things that were confusing me!

Guitar is an audio track with Bias amp in the fx bin

Pair of tracks MIDI/Audio for the Iris 2 synth

Input echo enabled only on the MIDI track.

No side chain or other routing I can find in any of the plugins or in my Cake paths...

Narrowed it down finally to being somehow midi related. I'm not hearing the actual synth on the guitar track, just a noise enough to even feed the reverb/delay downstream on the guitar track. That's what caught my attention. I went looking to turn off the delay in the Iris patch and found there was none! 😉

The solution was easy for now though there could be trouble in more complex situations, but somehow, some kind of midi action coming from  Bias Amp was looping as if external! That's where I realized my solution. I changed the Iris MIDI input to Exclusively my midi controller/keyboard instead of the ALL External Inputs" selection that it defaults to and has been fine for me until now...

But how could the Bias send out midi that Cake reads as External when it is an Internal plugin to begin with?