Terry Kelley

Was there a fake story going around?

Come on guys.

They work fine for me in another DAW, although LP 64 Multiband does the phase flip on one channel periodically. 

This just happened again. Something is causing it to happen and LP-64 maintains the flip until I reinstall it. Maybe something in the registry?

You are renting it, not buying it.

I use the Sonitus delay but this might be spot where you need to use someone else’s delay.

6 minutes ago, Matthaeus Ebonah said:

Thanks for all the input Cakewalk family. I've solved the issue. I just cancelled my subscription to Sonar and started using a different DAW. It's crazy that I figured out a new DAW that I have zero experience with quicker than a DAW I been using for over 20 years ✌️. 

Sometimes you just gotta do it.

Oops, wrong planet.

I personally believe it’s futile to discuss how Bandlab can cut features to allow them to sell a perpetual Sonar license.  

They aren’t going to do it. The answer you got was the standard “Oh we’re thinking about it. Stay tuned.” Oh sure we will.

There is no reason or value to Bandlab to offer a perpetual license. If they thought it made financial sense, they would have already done it. It doesn’t make financial sense. Stand-alone Sonar isn’t financially viable. There is no ciphering, calculation or marketing survey that will change that. They know they can’t get back many of the users they lost.

Why do you think Cakewalk got passed around so many times?  Multiple attempts were made to make money of it standalone. It didn’t work.

If a person is going to try and use the “We will get your music out there and you’ll be famous!” come-on then using Sonar makes sense. It’s a damn good product but if you just want a DAW that won’t stop working if you stop paying, there isn’t anything compelling to use it outside of Bandlab.

If you like the product and don’t mind rental fees, use it. It works very well. But wishing for a perpetual license is futile in my opinion.

I still get a request to use Google (I don’t have Facebook) but my workaround still works. 

Wow, has it already been a week? Time flies.

I get the Google login but if I close it and refresh the window, I am logged in already. Not sure why this is happening, but we are the product.

I tried all permutations of talking nice to it. It’s just not usable anymore. Haven’t tried the new Sonar but history suggests it will be  flaky.

But hey if you can get it to work, cool. There are alternatives though.

It’s TTS-1. It’s no longer stable in later versions of Cakewalk for whatever the reasons. Many of us gave up or switched to different GM VSTs.

You’ll  get it to work randomly but it will always give you grief.

In Sonar 8, I had to load old wrk files in the 32 bit version, save and then load them in the 64bit version. They wouldn’t work in 64 bit directly.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the new versions aren’t locked to Sonar. They work well in others DAWs as they are now. 

I've found it often sounds "canned" but it's good for inspiration and working our chords and changes.

In the end, I replay all of the parts myself but can't play as well as many of the Real stuff. Once in a rare blue moon BIAB will create something I can't reproduce even if it's just for the feeling (e.g. I am a terrible steel player) and I will keep some part of it. But I avoid using too much of its output. But as a buddy said, if I tried to sound like myself I would fail. 

But the inspiration is the best part.

It’s not unusual to have to go looking for the blobs.

On 1/31/2025 at 5:24 AM, Gswitz said:

Latest windows update marked asio.sys as a risky driver and doesn't load it.

This doesn't seem to be a problem. 

I reinstalled rme drivers and I'm cooking. 

But at 256 buffer at 96k,I now get clicks. 

I have no idea what is causing this. 

Suggestions welcome. 

Which update? 2H24?

Millihertz? A bit slow.

Well thank you for the encouragement! I’m going to go hit F4 multiple times for my own satisfaction!

On 1/29/2025 at 1:32 AM, Wayne Smith said:

That's interesting :>)

For now.  
 

Is don’t think all Real Tracks have a corresponding midi track. When I have  switched, the midi was different or nonsensical. But often it does work. BIAB is a good composing tool.

Yeah, if they are green the midi wont be a direct copy of the Real Tracks. It’s often nonsensical.

Read in the BIAB manual about MIDI instrument assignment and hit up the BIAB forum. You can switch any instruments to MIDI or select a style that doesn’t use Real Tracks.

Export the midi from BIAB, then export the wave instruments from BIAB (select file per instrument. ) Next import the wave and midi into Cakewalk tracks.  Make the tempo in Cakewalk match the tempo in BIAB. Watch that the midi and wave clips are aligned. You might need to slide one to match the other.

Now you have some choices. You can apply whatever instruments you want to the midi tracks plus you have the wave stems to mix in if you want. 

You can also go back into BIAB, change the style and extract various new instruments as you like. It’s great for getting away from the canned BIAB styles.

Finally, you can add the BIAB VST into Cakewalk, load the BIAB VST with the SGU file (File at the top left) and see the chords as you play your song in BIAB. It will also play the BIAB audio if you want.