Terry Kelley

Yeah, Xpand has lots of great stuff besides the horn sections.

There is a free program that disables the two security requirements in the WIndows 11 iso and allows it to install. Mine’s been working great for a couple of months.  Do a search.

Since project files are so small I save constantly and increment the filename with a note in the name of what I was doing (new drums, new lead vocals, etc.) I also run a batch file to copy all new files to a separate drive. I don't depend on autosave.

At some point I have the option of deleting early projects if I am sure I won't need them but I usually keep all of them until I am done with the song.

This has saved my butt from jerky and fumble-finger moves many times.

Once I figured out how to find the offending module in the dump files and when I determine it isn't Cakewalk, I don't send in issues or files. 

And we have to pay to do any real testing. To do any real testing you have to use it for a long period of time. I'm not going to spend any time digging into it if I can't save my work. Why bother.

OS/2 ran Windows in a window and Windows was based on OS/2 and would run OS/2 command line programs until Windows 7. I’ll bet its core is still OS/2. 
 

And now back to our regularly scheduled program.

And now for something rather off-topic:

Remember OS/2 and Windows 1.0? That was a soft rollout! Microsoft kept us hanging for a loooooonnnnngggg time while poo-pooing OS/2.

Not that any DAW represents OS/2 mind you.

If you do nothing, expect nothing.  I too hope these comments and concerns make it up to the Bandlab marketing and finance folks. But it’s clear that Bandlab has a vision that isn’t shared by everybody here.
 

We will see.

I used the crap out of the arranger. I’ll check this and get back. I don’t think it ever stopped if there wasn’t another section set to play. 

I am a huge Cakewalk fan but the competition is just that - competitive. I’ve spent the last month learning a different DAW and it can do everything Cakewalk can and then some. It just looks different. If BL comes out with a standalone price  for a perpetual license (and not a standalone subscription) I can easily switch back and carry on. Cakewalk does have a nice UI.
 

I think the top of the heap is shared with the competition. 

1 hour ago, Quinellipe Zorn said:

If Bandlab isn't watching this forum, that's Bandlab's problem.  
 

If "the Bakers" are interacting here, it's also their obligation to provide feedback within their company based on those interactions.  A company official cannot transact with customers and then disclaim it isn't their role to provide feedback, or such.  (And I'm not suggesting whatsoever that the engineers are making such disclaiming, and I have full confidence that they provide feedback.  If not, well, that's on the company.)

While I personally think we are being “strung along” at this point,  I don’t think it’s the developers doing it and I get the impression they would give us everything we want - if they could. We can bitch at them until the cows come home and all they can do is pass it on. Why bother them with that. 

Talk to Bandlab directly.

I was a developer and development manager for many years and we had little direct say in the pricing and rollout other than giving an opinion. It was marketing, sales and finance that drove the pricing and rollout. 
 

I believe that's get in to get out. But that's just me...

I have no idea what they will do.

I had no problem opening new Sonar files in CbB or old Sonar 8.02 and vice versa. However, old Sonar didn't like my VST3 plugins.

That said, I decided to close out anything of importance for when that day arrives. But you can always get a one month subscription to the new Sonar to finish anything up and export it to the new DAW. That's my plan for any "ah crap" moments.

5 hours ago, Bristol_Jonesey said:

Sonar supported Melodyne as far back as X1

Melodyne 5 is VST3.  I should have been clearer on that. 
 

I’m finishing up all of my CbB projects in preparation to move on. I certainly don’t want to get caught without a way to finish them and Old Sonar won’t support various VSTs or Melodyne 5.

Edit: Added the 5 to Melodyne for clarity. 

Or ...

1 hour ago, DeeringAmps said:

Exactly what I saw this morning, because there was a new version available. I downloaded and installed; Simple!

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I got the Sonar 'This version has expired.' A sign of things to come.

I interpret it as:

1. You are activated.

2. But not for long. This is how long you have. 
 

They could certainly be put in one pop up.

I haven’t noticed anything significant either way. Others can chime in.

i have a couple of VST loaded projects that won’t play cleanly unless I freeze some tracks and there was no improvement  with Sonar. I’m fine with that because I know these are excessively loaded with VSTs. The biggest culprits are the sample based VSTs.

I seriously doubt Bandlab will come on this forum to argue. Go to them directly. The developers aren't responsible for representing the marketing plans of Bandlab. Posting about it here is pointless. The developers have plenty to do. Let them do it.

Yeah just get used to clicking the clip. Not always but usually.

1 in 100 million.

1 hour ago, Resonant Serpent said:

I finally had a chance to sit down and work with the new interface. 

I have to say that I'm really, really digging it. It's snappy, easy to read, and unlike Cubase and Studio One, it doesn't seem cluttered or have fonts that are too small.

Picked up the subscription, and going to give it some heavy use. 

I must say, CbB/Sonar has one of the best first-look UIs around. I still compare others to it.

Hey, I still use Cool Edit 2000. Works like a champ and I have it integrated into CbB via AZSlow’s tools.  

That’s right, I live in the past!