Craig Reeves

Track duplication is a very useful and time-saving feature. Duplicating busses would be a really nice addition!

This occasionally happens to me as well. Although not as often as it used to.

The same thing occurs whether the track is first selected or not.

There are workarounds, sure, such as just copying and deleting, but the point is that it's a bug.

You're absolutely right, murat. I stand corrected then!

You guys KILLED it with this update! Just came back from the studio recording with an upcoming star and Cakewalk was what we used and it didn't miss a beat, even on a laptop that isn't the best in the world. For some reason it seems like this version of Cakewalk is faster.

This update is SO good!

It seems like the performance is better in this version. I can load more VST's and more audio, even on a laptop that's not very fast and Cakewalk can easily handle it, whereas it seems like before it would (as well as some other DAWs) struggle. It seems like for whatever reason this version is faster and performs better.

Ahhh I see. Thanks.

Ableton 11's beta is out and it said something about MPE support. It seems like all the other major DAWS (Ableton, Cubase, Logic Pro X and Studio One) all have this except Cakewalk. But what exactly is it? All I'm finding on it is something about the Roli Seaboard. EDIT: Years ago I used a Roli Seaboard with Cakewalk and didn't remember having issues.

Articulation maps are a feature I never even knew I needed!

The problem I was having was that I wasn't aware that you could switch from clip mode to clip automation mode as quickly. So that's why I was under the impression that this couldn't be done easily so my apologies everybody. Not only that but I was under a tremendous amount of stress earlier this week and was already in a bad mood. Like I said I shouldn't have taken it out on you guys so I'm sorry for that.

That is a valid workaround for my specific issue, but clip automation shouldn't have to be used for something as simple as adjusting the gain on a clip, seeing as to how often it is done.

First of all, YOU'RE the one that first called into question my expertise on matters like this, so I then identified myself as a professional who is not a beginner in production, nor in Cakewalk. Do I know everything there is to know as far as Cakewalk goes? No I don't which is why when I am mistaken about a feature I will correct myself. But this gaslighting anybody who criticizes Cakewalk from a place of genuinely wanting Cakewalk to be the best it can be, both for our own sake and for Cakewalk's sake as well, is a turnoff and has been mentioned even here why some have gotten fed up and just left for another DAW altogether. And riding a De-esser in automation is still using a De-esser when I mentioned before that a De-esser plugin is not always the best or easiest solution. And I am aware of clip automation which I mentioned in my very first post. Bringing down the level of multiple clips on multiple tracks at different bars of the project would be far more difficult than if the feature I suggested were implemented. Technically, you could fade clips using clip automation as well. But you don't because it is much easier and quicker to do it by grabbing the top corner of the clip and dragging left or right. That's my point. Clip automation takes longer to set up and is more cumbersome to use than the feature I suggested. That is the very reason other DAWs have this feature along with clip automation. I work with people everyday who do not use Cakewalk and this is a feature which I'm suggesting is one almost every one of them use all the time. So this is not some pointless feature nobody would use, especially seeing as to how I literally see people doing this in ProTools all the time. I promise you if any of them decided to try Cakewalk and found that the only way they could achieve the same task was through Clip automation, they would be disappointed. So yeah, one may be able to come up with a workaround for something Cakewalk is lacking in, but if said task is 10x easier to do in another DAW, that reflects poorly. Like I said, if people keep leaving Cakewalk to go elsewhere, there ain't gonna be no more Cakewalk. I don't want that and I'm sure you don't either.

That's the difference. I'm a professional which is why I'm bringing up issues a professional would bring up using this DAW. And I've been using Cakewalk since 2000. And I'm not stupid, I know what a De-esser is, but very often you want to De-ess vocals by actually lowering the gain of the areas in which there are harsh consonants because a De-esser can only do so much. There is a reason why every other major DAW has this feature and has had it for quite some time. Professionals adjust clip gain all the time. And yes, each track has a gain knob, but we're talking about PER CLIP. So don't talk down to me when it is clear you don't know what you're talking about. And who said I'm angry? I'm just pointing out areas in which Cakewalk can improve because I am always looking for ways the DAW I've been using my whole career can get better.

Emagic went out of business despite the fact that Logic was selling very well and was highly rated by reviewers. Finally, Gibson killed off Cakewalk after they filed for bankruptcy so it isn't like they said "you know what, Cakewalk isn't selling so well" and they just killed it off. You can't compare this to a highly profitable company like Apple who isn't even looking to profit off Logic because if they were, they would have implemented a subscription program a long time ago. I've been using Cakewalk for a while, but trust me I am not an apologist for Cakewalk. There are very serious holes in Cakewalk's game and there are utterly embarrassing problems with it, mainly in the fact that there are basic, everyday things even GarageBand can do that Cakewalk either can't do at all (like a real clip gain adjustment feature) or is implemented poorly. This, however, was never the reason Cakewalk didn't have the market share other DAWs had as this has been an issue with Cakewalk for years even when they were far more dominant in the music world than they are now. Most of the people in the professional music world have never even used Cakewalk, and most of the people who did up until Cakewalk went out of business weren't moving to other DAWs and Cakewalk consistently was praised by critics as one of the best DAWs on Windows.

And no, clip automation doesn't suffice. Because while clip automation is fine for adjusting the gain on a single clip, it fails when trying to adjust the gain on multiple clips at once which is very often the case when having to de-ess a stack of multiple vocals by hand. I can't think of a single other major DAW that is missing this feature so I would imagine it would be pretty easy to implement. And no, adding a plugin to each clip doesn't work because again, it's a stack of 5 vocals I'm trying to de-ess manually. And no, Process > Apply Effect > Gain doesn't work either because that is destructive and not adjustable. I'm literally going to have to take this vocal stack to Pro Tools because Cakewalk is completely unable to do this.

I just noticed it now.

This isn't really on topic of the articulation maps, but copying and pasting multiple lanes of automation in busses is very faulty and very often does not work, only pasting the top lane rather than all of them.

1. You asked me what I felt Cakewalk did better than Ableton and I answered your question by stating the various things Ableton doesn't have going for it. It would logically follow that since I'm comparing it to Cakewalk, that Cakewalk does indeed feature these things Ableton is missing and these features are important to me. And if you look at some of my other posts putting Cakewalk on blast for every single thing, you'll find that I'm not the type to say things just to be liked here. 2. And yes, it IS my opinion. This is a thread about OPINIONS. It is my opinion that Ableton is overpriced. If they're still able to be sustainable with such a price point, that's great, but in my OPINION, I am not willing to part with $800 for it. 3. I don't know what SONAR's sales numbers were compared to other DAWs on Windows, but I'm willing to bet it was one of the best-selling DAWs on the platform, probably second only to FL Studio. Gibson shut Cakewalk down mainly because Gibson went bankrupt in 2018. Emagic went out of business in 2002 as well despite Logic being one of the best-selling DAWs at the time. And yes, there have probably always been more professionals using Mac programs than Windows programs. There are more professionals using ProTools than anything else. Most professionals do not have time to try every DAW and see which one is the best. Most professionals only have experience in the DAW they started in as they are too busy to learn anything else. And the idea that pricing is only important to "hobbyists" is laughable. MOST professional musicians are broke. You'll be surprised how often I have been in studio sessions with professionals who are still using cracked software because they can't afford to pay for what they're using. Many professionals work day jobs to try to make ends meet. So yeah, pricing is very, very important. And determining which DAWs are "professional" is mostly determined by who the DAWs are marketed towards and the opinions of its users, not so much their capabilities or features.

A few things... First off, since in an earlier post you asked about Ableton I will offer a few areas but I'm not really one to bash other DAWs too much, plus I think Ableton is a great DAW. But Ableton is vastly overpriced, simple and plain. There is no justification as to why the top version should be $800. Ableton's piano roll isn't as robust or as smooth, step recording is rudimentary compared to Cakewalk, no ARA 2 support, MIDI controls like velocity and expression can't be automated, no comping, limited support for .rex files, no mix recall are a few areas. Are there areas in which Ableton is better? Of course there is, so to each his own... And keep in mind, Cakewalk used to be $400 and many of the people still using Cakewalk today were people who were using it then. So compared to the other free DAWs out there, there are way more professionals using Cakewalk than Garage Band. If there were other DAWs that were truly better or if Cakewalk just simply couldn't deliver what I needed anymore, I would switch to something else, but there really isn't much Cakewalk isn't able to do. Every DAW has bugs their community hates, including Cakewalk. Logic Pro X has bugs, Ableton, Cubase, FL Studio, Reason, they all have bugs. Cakewalk is unstable and crashes too much....just like pretty much every other major DAW in existence.

You're absolutely right Lord Tim. Oftentimes when I compare Cakewalk to other DAWS it might sound like I like those other DAWS better, but the DAWS I compare Cakewalk to are DAWS that I left FOR Cakewalk. And I left for a reason. There are TONS of things I wish Ableton, for instance, did as well as Cakewalk.