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JohnG last won the day on March 12 2019

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  1. Don't you "E to the eye pie" me, you scoundrel! πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰
  2. Here in the UK we seem to have lost pounds and ounces and inches, feet and yards and pennies and shillings for a simplified 'more logical' system. I much preferred the old way. But then I like minims, crotchets and quavers too. Part of a dying breed I suppose. Oh well! Just been reading about GΓΆbekli Tepe. I wonder how they measured things all those years ago?
  3. Tell her the octaves are in tune. 2:1 and major fifths are almost in tune. But the thirds are awful in E.T.
  4. And the really, really pathetically ridiculous thing about this premise is that it's based on Hz. Ever asked yourself "what really is Hertz?" A. Simple, it's cycles per second. Q.What exactly is a second? A. Well, it's a sixtieth of a minute. Q. What's a minute? A. A sixtieth of an hour. Q. What's an hour? A. A twenty-fourth of a day. Q. But why 24? Why not, for example, ten hours in a day, 100 minutes in an hour and a hundred seconds in a minute? Wouldn't that be more logical? Q. Why 24, 60 , 60? It makes no sense. Lets change to 10, 100, 100. New hours, new minutes and new seconds. Then Hz changes; the speed of light changes (or, rather, the way we measure it, and so on. The second is just some arbitrary way that humans decided to measure time, who knows how long ago. It's not a fixed cosmological constant. Why 360 degrees in a circle. Why not 100 degrees in a right angle then a circle would be 400 degrees. My children asked me these questions around 30 years ago. Any thoughts?
  5. The theme tune from Spike's Q5? Without equal.
  6. No, not when you're listening to the sound of bagpipes, an accordeon playing or that thing they call Rap. Then, the further away the speakers are, the better. Wouldn't you agree? They're the speakers for me. πŸ˜‰
  7. "Zappa in Munich" ... the town's the clue. "fis moll" in Deutsch = F sharp minor in Englisch, sorry English.
  8. When I write about temperament, I'm not referring to the tuning of A, whether the modern A=440Hz or the baroque A=415Hz (roughly a semitone lower). So in that sense you're quite correct. I'm referring to the tuning of fifths that one does when tuning, e.g. a piano or harpsichord, etc. A 'perfect' fifth (e.g. C to G) has a ration of 3:2, discovered allegedly by Pythagoras, but if we tune a series of perfect fifths (let's say starting on F) with the ratio 3:2, until we have gone all the way round the circle of fifths, and end up on Bb, we want to end up where we started, but much further up the keyboard. But we don't, we end up about half a semitone too high. The interval of Bb to F is way out of tune. Here's the arithmetic. F to C to G to D to A to E to B to F# to C# to G# to Eb to Bb to F. 3/2 x 3/2 x 3/2 x 3/2 x 3/2 x 3/2 x 3/2 x 3/2 x 3/2 x 3/2 x 3/2 x 3/2 = 129.746 Going up the required number of octaves (a piano keyboard is useful here) 2/1 x 2/1 x 2/1 x 2/1 x 2/1 x 2/1 x 2/1 = 128.0 So, somehow we have to lose that overshoot of 1.746 (called a Pythagorean comma) by flattening some or all of the intervening fifths. Equal temperament (ET) divides the comma equally across all the notes, but wasn't common until the first quarter of the 20th century (it was very difficult to tune). ET gives good fifths but results in very poor thirds. Other 'temperaments', common in the baroque era,'use different ways of dividing the comma. And it's one of these I was referring to, 1/4 comma meantone.
  9. As David Baay as had, I don't buy this at all, at least not in equal temperament. Note that in Charpentier's chart he doesn't list all the keys, just 17 of them. Why? Because at that time his keyboard instruments would have been tuned in quarter comma meantone. Keys outside those listed would have had so many "wolves", i.e. notes relatively out of tune, that they were unusable. Try retuning to 1/4 comma and THEN listen to the differences in the different keys. As an example, Bach (Joh. Seb.) wrote 15 each of his 2 part inventions and 3 part sinfonias (also believed to have been written for meantone tuning) that's why not 24. It's relatively easy to find MIDI files of these on the Internet. They can be easily put into a MIDI file player that will render them in different temperaments. It's only by experimenting with something like this that you realise that Bach, Haydn, Mozart and Beethoven were NOT using E.T. Real key differences. E.T. means everything sounds the same just transposed. Non-E.T. gives true Key Colour. Just my 0.02c! JohnG.
  10. Whoops, what a blunder! As you say zoology was, perhaps, not their strong point. Aren't pilot whales and dolphins, in fact air breathing mammals, not fish? Whereas the salmon is, indeed, a fish. (I've often thought, shouldn't zoology actually be spelled zooology, maybe hyphenated zoo-ology?) Passing thoughts certainly can be illuminatingly illogical, leaving one feeling, somehow, ill-at-ease. Donchathink?
  11. <Sprachpolizei> ... for illustrat ed ion purposes. FTFY πŸ˜‰ ... or illustrative purposes, or illegitimate purposes, or illimitable, or illogical, or Illuminati, or illuminating, or illusionist, or even illustrious porpoises ... just not illustrated. Got it? </Sprachpolizei> (Entschuldigung, ich war mehr als acht Jahre Englischlehrer in Deutschland!)
  12. <grammar police> "... WAY too long ... There, FTFY. </grammar police> Tsk, tsk, tsk! πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰
  13. Oh No! Poor ickle pigwet! P.S. Any becan?
  14. How about a sing along? P.S. I notice that only Vera is practising suitable social distancing!
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