kday

Insert FX disappeared? I can't find it.

There used to be an Insert FX on the main page Tracks to add effects when auditioning, where did it go, and how do you now add insert effects on the main page? 

Thanks

15 hours ago, kday said:

Clicking "Run Cal" after selecting the midi track only brings up the OPEN browser from the Local C disk, Cal scripts folder. I see midi files when i do that.

Thanks Terry! Yeah I finally found out the way you described here from finding the Youtube video describing that exact process. The visual illustration allowed me to understand what was being said here.  I now see how that process works.  I think my MPC X loads midi files, and may allow the user to save as a type 1 midi file. If it does that, I may have another way to convert the files. Thanks for all your help!

6 hours ago, Noel Borthwick said:

Type 1 MIDI files are multi track files. Type 0 are single track. To convert you will have to split channels to tracks.

This can be done using a CAL script. See C:\Cakewalk Content\Cakewalk Core\CAL Scripts\Split Channel to Tracks.cal

I've attached the file below if you cant find it.

Split Channel to Tracks.cal 1.41 kB · 5 downloads

Hey Thanks for all your help and the link and file! And I also found a youtube tutorial on that exact process. It divides notes into tracks, thanks again! If there are more than sixteen tracks in a midi file, but would it still divide the extra tracks in the sixteen, or leave off some midi track data since midi files only hold sixteen tracks of data I wonder?

Kurre, I'm looking for a conversion program online, probably the only way to fix this may be to buy a midi 0 to midi 1 converter program somewhere.

9 minutes ago, Kurre said:

Citation from promidi in old Sonar forum.

You could also try "split Channel to Tracks.CAL"

Here is how to do it.

Load your midi file (or import it) and select just that track.
Go to Process menu and click "Run Cal".  A file dialog box will open.  Hopefully the file "split Channel to Tracks.CAL" is listed there. Open that and it will ask you for the first destination track and the MIDI file should be distributed to the various tracks, starting at your destination track.

Clicking "Run Cal" after selecting the midi track only brings up the OPEN browser from the Local C disk, Cal scripts folder. I see midi files when i do that.

1 minute ago, Kurre said:

Try to save it as a type 1 midi file and then reopen it.

So far that way isn't working on Cakewalk, I'm still trying, there gotta be a way to do this in Cakewalk

1 hour ago, Kurre said:

In the Cakewalk browser. The media tab. Highlight the midifile. Look att the bottom frame and you can see information about the file. If it says midi type 0 it behaves as it should. That midi type act as you describe. It has to be a midifile type 1 to open several tracks.

I think you are right about the Midi types. So the thing now is to find out how to export it from a type 0 to a type 1 to separate the midi tracks. Thanks for all your help!

3 hours ago, Terry Kelley said:

Check your PMs. I sent you a test file. You can Open in Cakewalk, Import or Open With Cakewalk and it should give you multiple tracks.

I can't get it to not open as multiple tracks. If you don't mind, PM me your file and I will try it on my side.

 

Hey thanks! Yeah your file opened all the tracks, maybe you have a different Midi file type. I trying to find out how to tell the difference.

37 minutes ago, Kurre said:

In the Cakewalk browser. The media tab. Highlight the midifile. Look att the bottom frame and you can see information about the file. If it says midi type 0 it behaves as it should. That midi type act as you describe. It has to be a midifile type 1 to open several tracks.

Hey thanks Kurre, if possible can you screenshot the open media tab I can't figure out how to do this that you've mentioned thanks! If not I'm still looking and thanks!

17 minutes ago, bdickens said:

You should open MIDI files and not import them.

Using OPEN still only opens/load one Midi track and not the multiple.

11 minutes ago, Terry Kelley said:

It does for me. Are these Cakewalk midi files?

Try the attached. I can create a single midi track, highlight it and then import this file getting many tracks.

I'm trying to think if there is a setting that controls this. Are you sure they aren't truly single tracks with everything piled into it? You can do that even if that confuses everybody.

 

 

Yeah, I'm sure they're multi-track, as I can see the multi track midi data within the one midi track that loads.  You have a multi track midi file to try?

Thanks

Anyone know why only one track is created when I import a multi-track midi file?  I thought Cakewalk automatically created the additional Midi tracks when loading multi track midi files? Am I doing something wrong? I tried several midi files and the same results

Thanks for any help

17 hours ago, 57Gregy said:

Before copying and pasting, I always check the clip's properties to see where it actually starts.
It may appear to start on the measure, but checking the properties may show it starts at (for example) 15:04:889. I write that down. Then when I want to paste it 16 bars later, in the Paste dialog box I change the numbers from whatever it reads to 31:04:889 and everything will be copacetic.

Where exactly is the "Paste dialog box" you enter the bar numbers into ?  

3 hours ago, 57Gregy said:

Before copying and pasting, I always check the clip's properties to see where it actually starts.
It may appear to start on the measure, but checking the properties may show it starts at (for example) 15:04:889. I write that down. Then when I want to paste it 16 bars later, in the Paste dialog box I change the numbers from whatever it reads to 31:04:889 and everything will be copacetic.

I'm gonna try that! I never used to properties option before but if i get the hang of this i'm on to a new future! lol

23 hours ago, John Vere said:

All the tutorials are found on the Tutorials sub forum.  https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/forum/35-tutorials/

But Google is the fastest way to get answers. Example " Cakewalk copy and past clips" 

Some results= 

https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR X3&language=3&help=Arranging.17.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1EKnepfyXE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGtfz2YB4sA

 

Hey thanks for all these links, I'm gonna go through them to gets some info on the snapping process. Appreciate it!

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7 hours ago, bdickens said:

Uh.... OK ...

I really don't think this is so difficult.

If I have a part that starts, say, on the "and" of beat 3, measure 1, even my dyscalculic self has no problem copying it then counting over to the and of beat 3 measure 17 and pasting it in.

 

I use real time linear recording on Cakewalk tracks and it boils down to pasting according to where I think the part is supposed to be, but by pasting takes many takes because I'm not pasting within a sequencer, and the chorus part past has no bars to snap to like a dedicated sequencer, so I would have to figure out the snap feature in Cakewalk. If I was pasting according to a sequencer, I could do it once and copy the whole sequence 16 bars later. But Cakewalk is real time and it's a guessing game.

On 6/18/2021 at 12:40 PM, reginaldStjohn said:

If you use the snap settings you can do one of two things. Enable snap set to "snap to" set it to bars and then cntrl-click and drag your clip 16 bars down. In this case your clip has to start right on a bar boundary. You can drag the edge of the clip to the start of the bar then after the copy just drag it back out.

Or, Set the snap settings to "snap-by" and then ctrl-drag the clip 16 bars down and it should be exactly 16 bars when you drop it.

Or, set the snap to enable landmarks and set the now time cursor to the edge of the clip to copy and note the time where the now time cursor is.  copy the clip, edit copy, or cntr-c. then set the now time to exactly 16 bars from your noted time and paste the clip

Thanks, I couldn't get the part to move, I think I need to see a video demonstration of this process to understand it.  I'll look on the web. But thanks for the explanation appreciate it.

On 6/18/2021 at 2:50 PM, bdickens said:

Arithmetic?

I tried that, but some parts start before basic bar numbers.

On 6/18/2021 at 7:53 PM, John Vere said:

I don’t understand the problem?  You copy and paste to any place in a song anything you want. Exact placement is a matter of learning how to use the tools properly. 
lots of tutorials on the subject of pasting audio or midi. 

The issue I have is trying to copy and paste the exact number of measures from one location to the next, copying and pasting becomes difficult for certain parts that don't start on the exact bar, for certain parts that starts before a chorus part it's a 20 paste guessing game to where it becomes mental fatigue.  But yeah, that's what I'm looking for some tutorials on snapping or pasting in Cakewalk. Thanks for your help appreciate it.

On 6/19/2021 at 12:49 AM, mettelus said:

Another issue may be that the timeline is not set properly to the song. If reginaldStjohn's answer isn't the solution (it should be), does the timeline match the project? It is unclear if you imported audio or not from the OP.

Well it's just a recorded part, that I wish to copy and paste exactly 16 bars later, but the chorus part starts before the chorus 8-bar sequence starts so it's a guessing game trying to doing live by hand. If i doing it long enough it may sound closer to original but I have to keep doing that tedious part four times over. But thanks I may try to look up some tutorials somewhere.  Thanks for the help

On 6/19/2021 at 9:01 AM, 57Gregy said:

I usually right-click>copy (or Ctrl>C) then Ctrl>V and when the dialog box comes up, change the paste point to exactly 16 bars later. It doesn't matter where the Now line is at that time, just change it. 

I never did it that way, is there a tutorial on how this process works? Thanks for the help

On 6/20/2021 at 8:12 AM, lapasoa said:

Ripple edit my friend. Never heard of it?

I never did ripple edit, is there a tutorial on it somewhere? I'll check youtube. Thanks!

How could I copy a Vocal part recorded at a certain part of the song exactly 16 bars later? Every time I try this it's like guess work and never align to the exact location 16 bars later. Unless I just record it live again and again. I often see professionals copy the same vocal hook from the first take and then pasting it until the last. Is there a way to make this easier in Cakewalk ?

Thanks

It would be great if their was an upfront Normalize button function on main page next to MIDI - REGION FX  buttons above Tracks.

This way the user can normalize all tracks instantly instead of going through menus and multiple button pushes just to do one track.  Currently if you recorded many many overdubs and punch ins on one track, it's a tedious process to select every punch in edit so that the whole track will be normalized equally.  There should be a whole track normalization process that selects all edits and recordings on that particular track instead of just the selected part.  I find myself selecting a track to normalize, and come to find out that because their were numerous punch ins it only selected a small section of a complete recording.

When I play one VST in Cakewalk using my MIDI controller keyboard, the other VST plays also. How can I trigger just one VST module at a time?  It used to play only one VST when it was selected, but now when I leave that VST track to go to another, the old VST track still plays when playing from my Midi keyboard controller.  Is there a switch that I un-selected?

It used play only one track at a time, and when I left that track the old track was silenced and only the new VST track played, but now every new VST midi track selected keeps on playing at same time? So now every track plays the same midi notes. How can I play one track at a time?

Thanks for any help

Yeah, but those messages used to just go away. But now they never goes away, I'm trying to figure out what's wrong altogether?

When opening a new project Cakewalk, it displays the message then gets stuck saying [Opening Project  "Loading FX SPACE" ] and the other message says [VST Scan - Scanning Waveshell9-VST3 11_x64.vst3 ] even though the programs seems to load. How can I fix this?

Image example below

Thank you for all the help guys. Yeah, the changing the start time in properties box seems the fastest for me. Appreciate it

1 hour ago, scook said:

Change the Start time in the Clip Properties Inspector

Thanks! I got it

51 minutes ago, Noel Borthwick said:

Another quick way is to drag the files to the track view or the divider between the TV and clips pane. This is a shortcut to insert at beginning.

What do you mean Clips pane?  I couldn't figure it out.  Mine is on the track and console view.

Yeah, I had accidentally posted in wrong section, thanks

Often when I'm not at the start of the track and I load a wav file, it loads where the cursor is often not at the start of the song.

Is there a way to snap the loaded wav file back to the start of the song instead of having to drag the track file to the start, which sometimes is a long drag?

I remember there was a way to load a track to where it would load at the beginning of the song regardless but I can't remember the option in preferences.

I want all loaded wav tracks to load at the start of the song regardless of where the cursor is.  Or how to snap it to the start if it's loaded in the middle of a song.